Arsehole cops....

[DEATH_INC.]

Once again a member of our highway tax collecting agency has shown not all are good sorts....
Coming home from the Cold kiwi last weekend we were just leaving a town on the way home,there was about 7 of us,we were all still fairly close together,and not going that fast.
Two guys in front of draco,myself following and the others behind.
Come over a hill doing under 110,a copper was just turning around on a side road,bugger I think he's got one of the lads(who have split by then)....but he pulls out infront of me and proceeds to stop draco????so I pull over too to see whassup,wait aside for a few minutes (enough to see draco getting pissed off)then wander over to see what's happening.He says she was going 117kph,do you wanna see?So I had a look,not right I'm thinking....How do we know this was her and not one of the guys in front?I ask.There was no one in front he says.(what???)There was I said,I know them.Oh,he says they were over 200 m in front.(not!)
I then leave before I get pissed and get draco and myself some more tax forms.

I'm pretty pissed about this because I'm sure I'm right,and one of the other guys said he put his lights on when he came past them.......almost confirms it I think.

One other q though,does the radar still give a 'live' reading after it's locked?

We're gonna fight it,but I don't think we'll win cause it's a cops word against ours,and I can't really get the other guys to testify.....

[crashe]

Once again a member of our highway tax collecting agency has shown not all are good sorts....
Coming home from the Cold kiwi last weekend we were just leaving a town on the way home,there was about 7 of us,we were all still fairly close together,and not going that fast.
Two guys in front of draco,myself following and the others behind.
Come over a hill doing under 110,a copper was just turning around on a side road,bugger I think he's got one of the lads(who have split by then)....but he pulls out infront of me and proceeds to stop draco????so I pull over too to see whassup,wait aside for a few minutes (enough to see draco getting pissed off)then wander over to see what's happening.He says she was going 117kph,do you wanna see?So I had a look,not right I'm thinking....How do we know this was her and not one of the guys in front?I ask.There was no one in front he says.(what???)There was I said,I know them.Oh,he says they were over 200 m in front.(not!)
I then leave before I get pissed and get draco and myself some more tax forms.

I'm pretty pissed about this because I'm sure I'm right,and one of the other guys said he put his lights on when he came past them.......almost confirms it I think.

One other q though,does the radar still give a 'live' reading after it's locked?

We're gonna fight it,but I don't think we'll win cause it's a cops word against ours,and I can't really get the other guys to testify.....

Mate if you take it to court and you should loose the case....
Then please add on another $150 to the fine as that is Court costs.

Buggar about being nabbed...
Good luck Draco in fighting it.

How much is the fine? any demerit points lost?
Maybe the guys that you were with on the day, could all throw in some money to help pay for it... just a suggestion..

[aff-man]

ahhh another good story.

"feck i will never catch those guys..... hold on a second who is this coming over the hill......................"

Unlucky mate good luck on the fight though

[Shade]

Bugger -

Yeah unfortunately there will always be Cowboys out there, who are in it to ping people for money and make themselves feel good, and not to keep the roads safe.

Every cop ive met has been really good - bad luck dude, but good luck in the fight.

[Aaron717]

i hate tosser popo's like that. they need to wake the hell up.

good luck if your going to fight em you'll need it!

[*sic]

that sucks the big one, but what can you do? everyone will get pinged once in there life.. i still havent


one day tho im sure..

[geoffm]

Your friend is screwed. The system is such that, by being accused, he is guilty. The cops are taken as expert witnesses" and "always honest". Been there, paid that tax invoice. The only chance of winning would be to take it to the court of appeal once he has been found guilty. Allow $30k and a year or so...
And the cops wonder why people don't like them any more? A few bad eggs like this spoil However, if they won't clean up their mess themselves, they cannot complain.
In a real criminal charge, the police would have to provide evidence. This is optional in speeding charges.IMO, there is a strong case for requiring video cameras connected to the radar system, as used overseas. It would answer the question very quickly in this case. It won't happen, as there is no positive side for the IRD (er police) in this case. THere is the cost of the equipment, and having to provide evidence will increase the processing costs (ie business overhead) and reduce the income (ie sales revenue) as more people get off false charges.
Sod 'em
Geoff

[froggyfrenchman]

it is with the greatest sympathy i say, dnt blame the police in general. in my experiance the police in general are a group of really good guys with one of the worst jobs around. they deserve our respect. BUT in saying that... Highway patrol often are the complete oppisite, they do bugger all to keep the roads safe, just a revenue gathering department of the police. Guess what im tryn to say is.. Dont judge the whole NZ police force by the handfull of prick highway patrol officereon the road.
Just my humble opinion.

[WINJA]

FUCKEN PIGS , ITS SAFER FOR THEM TO GIVE OUT SPEEDING TICKETS THAN CATCH REAL CRIMS, SOME ONE SOMEWHERE WAS BEING ROBBED ,ASSAULTED OR IN NEED OF HELP AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER COP IS NOT HELPING THEM.
IT WOULD BE MORE THAN LIKELY THE COP RADARED THE PEOPLE IN FRONT BUT WHAT CAN YOU DO, RUNNERS NEXT TIME

[Hammer]

Bummer. Not a way to end the weekend. Was that on SH39? My mate got hit there on the way home as well. Fortunately for me I was 2k back and the radar detector went right off.

[Skyryder]

If you can't get anyone to testify on your behalf, save your money. You wont win.

Skyryder

[Coyote]

Do they still give out warnings these days?

[yungatart]

Yep-right between the eyes

[Indoo]

One other q though,does the radar still give a 'live' reading after it's locked?

We're gonna fight it,but I don't think we'll win cause it's a cops word against ours,and I can't really get the other guys to testify.....

Yep it keeps on reading. Its really easy to pick out individual speeds, even amongst grouped up bikes, just by using the tone/visual and knowing how the beam works. But targetting a biker travelling in a group like that (unless of the patch wearing variety) is just petty regardless of whether there speed had slipped a wee bit high.

BTW Winja, is this guy a relative of yours?

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[Biff]

Once again a member of our highway tax collecting agency has shown not all are good sorts....
Coming home from the Cold kiwi last weekend we were just leaving a town on the way home,there was about 7 of us,we were all still fairly close together,and not going that fast.
Two guys in front of draco,myself following and the others behind.
Come over a hill doing under 110,a copper was just turning around on a side road,bugger I think he's got one of the lads(who have split by then)....but he pulls out infront of me and proceeds to stop draco????so I pull over too to see whassup,wait aside for a few minutes (enough to see draco getting pissed off)then wander over to see what's happening.He says she was going 117kph,do you wanna see?So I had a look,not right I'm thinking....How do we know this was her and not one of the guys in front?I ask.There was no one in front he says.(what???)There was I said,I know them.Oh,he says they were over 200 m in front.(not!)
I then leave before I get pissed and get draco and myself some more tax forms.

I'm pretty pissed about this because I'm sure I'm right,and one of the other guys said he put his lights on when he came past them.......almost confirms it I think.

One other q though,does the radar still give a 'live' reading after it's locked?

We're gonna fight it,but I don't think we'll win cause it's a cops word against ours,and I can't really get the other guys to testify.....

What a shit.

A perfect example of why the kinds of radar used in NZ cop cars were banned for use by UK cops in the early 1990s.

How the hell can you prove which target the radar locked onto?