zxr400 rvf400 Lams approved?

[FJRider]

I don't think that is right. You would need to see the code but they are all NC35XXXX

Check it out yourself ...

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

Please note: The following list currently displays the more current models available in the New Zealand market. It will be updated as other models, both old and new, are approved by the NZ Transport Agency. Please ensure you pay close attention the degree of specification in the list - for example, a Suzuki GSX650FU model is specified in the list, therefore is a LAMS-approved motorcycle. A Suzuki GSX650F is not on the list and is therefore not LAMS-approved.

[FJRider]

I don't think that is right. You would need to see the code but they are all NC35XXXX

I googled the ZXR400 ... and found a significant difference in HP through the various models.

Being on the LAM's list is a moot point anyway ... if a Learner/Restricted rider is found riding a motorcycle over the prescribed limit/formula ... they would be operating a vehicle outside the conditions of their license.

[Vinz0r]

Some people just loooooove semantics!

[sil3nt]

The link you gave was for an RVF400r ... (note the r at the end)

The LAM's list features an RVF400 ... (Note ... NO r)




Different models ... different stat's ...

lolwat

There is only one model of RVF.

[R650R]

Actually ... according to this link ... Tare weight.

http://www.motorcycletrader.co.nz/ne...erman-%281%29/

Had to change the quote as it didn't bring the speech bubble bit.

Sorry but the guy you are quoting is wrong, he means to say dry weight.
Tare weight is the unladen weight of a vehicle with what ever fuel is in the tank, oil in the engine or tools/strops in toolbox at time.
Don't worry the Herald and Fairfax get it wrong all the time too. BTW while we're here just for the sake of it GCM gross combination mass is the maximum weight of towing vehicle and its trailers. GVM gross vehicle mass is the heaviest safe load rating for that vehicle. Both numbers are manufacturer ratings and have no reference to countries individual weight limits although if they are exceeded in an off-highway situation and the vehicle is later involved in a road accident then it becomes a legal issue.
People with heavily loaded race trailers should be aware of what their ute/vans GCM is...

I'm sure the Japanese market has restrictions too and LAMS will prob use their numbers, its pretty common for most of those jap import fours to have factory restrictions to air intake etc...

[ducatilover]

The link you gave was for an RVF400r ... (note the r at the end)

The LAM's list features an RVF400 ... (Note ... NO r)




Different models ... different stat's ...

Nope

I googled the ZXR400 ... and found a significant difference in HP through the various models.

What were your results? I'm quite interested to see.
As far as I remember the '93 onwards ZXR400L was supposedly taken down to 53hp as per Jap rules, but the H and J models were "full fat" with the J having a wee bit more wick, same goes for the M models
You'll never find an M or J model these days though

I think the 400/4s of that flavour are a bit much for a learner, they're not too dissimilar in performance to s standard restricted 250-2T

[FJRider]

People with heavily loaded race trailers should be aware of what their ute/vans GCM is...

Many trucks/vans can be driven on a car license ... but ONLY when they are empty.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I googled the ZXR400 ... and found a significant difference in HP through the various models.

Being on the LAM's list is a moot point anyway ... if a Learner/Restricted rider is found riding a motorcycle over the prescribed limit/formula ... they would be operating a vehicle outside the conditions of their license.

Sorry I was talking about Honda: the VFR400R (Honda code NC30) is not on the lams list, but the RVF400R (NC35) is. the RVF had slightly less HP (by 1) and scraped into the list. I couldnt believe it when I first struck it - I was in Peter Stevens in Melbs and they had a complete minter RVF in there with a bunch of signage going "learner approved". I was gobsmacked.

[FJRider]

What were your results? I'm quite interested to see.
As far as I remember the '93 onwards ZXR400L was supposedly taken down to 53hp as per Jap rules, but the H and J models were "full fat" with the J having a wee bit more wick, same goes for the M models
You'll never find an M or J model these days though

I think the 400/4s of that flavour are a bit much for a learner, they're not too dissimilar in performance to s standard restricted 250-2T

1989 ...44 kw (dry weight 163 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1989.aspx

1991 ... 47 kw (dry weight 162 kg)
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod...xr400%2090.htm

1993 ... 48.5 kw (159 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1993.aspx

1999 ... 47.4 (dry weight 159 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1993.aspx

[ducatilover]

1989 ...44 kw (dry weight 163 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1989.aspx

1991 ... 47 kw (dry weight 162 kg)
http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mod..._zxr400 90.htm

1993 ... 48.5 kw (159 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1993.aspx

1999 ... 47.4 (dry weight 159 kg)
http://www.motorbikes.be/en/Kawasaki_ZXR_400_1993.aspx

Ah I see. The real conjecture was whether or not they all made 65hp or 59hp. In the manuals I have Kawasaki seem to be adamant that they all make around 59hp. But the J and M models I mentioned before (SP ones, single seat unit, Flatslides and different cdi, supposedly cams too) were probably making close to 65hp on a fucking great day.

[FJRider]

Sorry I was talking about Honda: the VFR400R (Honda code NC30) is not on the lams list, but the RVF400R (NC35) is. the RVF had slightly less HP (by 1) and scraped into the list. I couldnt believe it when I first struck it - I was in Peter Stevens in Melbs and they had a complete minter RVF in there with a bunch of signage going "learner approved". I was gobsmacked.

The NZ LAM's list features the RVF400 and the NC40.

No mention of an RVF400r .... or ... an NC30.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

Can you produce a more up to date list .. (that DO feature them) .. ???

[ducatilover]

The NZ LAM's list features the RVF400 and the NC40.

No mention of an RVF400r .... or ... an NC30.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

Can you produce a more up to date list .. (that DO feature them) .. ???

The NC40 is just an NV400 cruiser not anything fast or special by small bike standards

RVF400 and RVF400R are one and the same

The ZXR however is a relatively recent addition to the list.

[R650R]

Many trucks/vans can be driven on a car license ... but ONLY when they are empty.

Sorry I was talking about overloading, exceeding the maximum towed mass is proper term for cars/vans utes etc... Unless you buy a pretty big SUV/4WD etc most people easily exceed these ratings, doesn't seem to be enforced until there is an accident though...

[HenryDorsetCase]

The NZ LAM's list features the RVF400 and the NC40.

No mention of an RVF400r .... or ... an NC30.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

Can you produce a more up to date list .. (that DO feature them) .. ???

Fucks sake we are talking around in circles. NC30 NO LAMS NC35 LAMS. Do you get it now?

I have never heard of an NC40 "shadow slasher" until just now. Its some hideous JDM cruiser thing by the looks. To me it looks like a VT750.

[HenryDorsetCase]

The NZ LAM's list features the RVF400 and the NC40.

No mention of an RVF400r .... or ... an NC30.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/licence/gett...cles/lams.html

Can you produce a more up to date list .. (that DO feature them) .. ???

where do you think our LAMS list came from? Straya thats where. adopted holus bolus is my understanding.