New (good) filtering law in Queensland. Time to push for similar here?

[Tazz]

http://tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Queensl...oad-rules.aspx

With the changes recently accepted in Queensland, would it not be a good time to fill the appropriate ministers inbox/letterbox with letters pointing this out and maybe some of the benefits?

Bunch of emails to the right person might slowly get some cogs turning or in the very least get it on their mind.

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/minister/simon-bridges
s.bridges@ministers.govt.nz

http://www.beehive.govt.nz/minister/craig-foss
c.foss@ministers.govt.nz

http://campaign.labour.org.nz/phil_twyford
phil.twyford@parliament.govt.nz

Maybe a free beer to anyone who can get that Welly biker cop to sign a petition?

[Ulsterkiwi]

all pretty clear isnt it? I really cant see why we cannot have the same clarity here. It would be interesting to see if motorcycling organisations could endorse this kind of change to the rules and perhaps even get the police on board. That would bring more weight to bear on the politicians.

[catharsis]

I emailed a bunch of MP's and ministers about this today.
So far only one meaningful response but I had a brief email exchange and even a phone call from Phil Twyford.
He was very supportive and came up with a few suggestions on how to get the snow ball rolling downhill on this thing.
So I'll start an online petition as a starting point.
He also said he would be open to any invitations to motorcycle community meetings or events and would like to support this thing.

Better than nothing at all right?

[Scuba_Steve]

Nup I think we're doing alright here without it; Someone just needs to take a baseball bat to the wanker in the gorge & all will be fine

[Ulsterkiwi]

Nup I think we're doing alright here without it; Someone just needs to take a baseball bat to the wanker in the gorge & all will be fine

I understand your reluctance for change if it makes things "worse" and while I have yet to personally come across the Gentleman in the Gorge (or is that Gentlec**t in the Gorge?); I am thinking a baseball bat management strategy, while not without some appeal, might in the long term not work out so well.
I am reminded of the story below......

This is a story about four people named Everybody, Somebody, Anybody and Nobody. There was an important job to be done and Everybody was sure that Somebody would do it. Anybody could have done it, but Nobody did it. Somebody got angry about that, because it was Everybody’s job. Everybody thought Anybody could do it, but Nobody realized that Everybody wouldn’t do it. It ended up that Everybody blamed Somebody when Nobody did what Anybody could have.

Catharsis mate well done, do you mind sharing what you put in the emails that got the Hon Twyford on the blower to you?

[Rhys]

Seems to be a common sense law, I think most car and truck drivers would understand it as well

[catharsis]

My email was very simple.

---- begin quoted text ----
Hi,

Please take a look at the below Australian govt. link regarding lane filtering laws being passed in Australia.
http://tmr.qld.gov.au/Safety/Queensl...oad-rules.aspx

The law here in NZ is vague and unclear regarding an every day practice.
This kind of clarity puts rules around it and will make sure that motorcyclists are lane filtering safely. This should mean that more people are encouraged to use motorcycles and reduce congestion etc. A far cheaper method than expanding roadways.

Please give this some time and try to do the right thing for us.

Thanks very much,

---- end quoted text ----

See below link for an online petition.
The Hon. Phil Twyford has said to me that this may well be something he will get behind (sponsor and lobby for) so if WE can get enough signatures on this thing then he will take me to a select committee.

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/...rcyclists.html

SHARE IT. Take it to your local bike shop and ask them to put it on the counter. Share on Facefriends and myface or twater or whatever. Just make as much noise as you can. The Queensland one had 9,000 responses. Lets get 10k+ eh?

[Icemaestro]

Done :-)


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[Welly-Ray]

I've checked with NZTA on their position re legality issue of lane-splitting. Their response was positive. I also asked them when we will see the term "lane-splitting" to be included in the Rode Code, like it's mentioned in Competency-based training and assessment guide. Haven't heard back on the 2nd one but will report when I do.

[Big Dog]

Done, promoted and shared on face book.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Madness]

Nup I think we're doing alright here without it; Someone just needs to take a baseball bat to the wanker in the gorge & all will be fine

I bet he's rubbing his hands together at the thought of kiwi bikers pushing for a law change that could easily make all splitting and filtering over 30km/hr illegal, irrespective of anything else including lane position or level of safety. And cunts think this is a good idea?

[catharsis]

When I've been pulled over for it I've been told (multiple times) that "The guideline is 40km/ph max".
I can't find any reference for that whatsoever but 2 motorbike cops and a couple of car bound cops have said the same thing.
Now, if there was a specific law in place that says that filtering is OK and everybody knows that by riding between lanes you're doing nothing wrong at all. And also, there's a specific limit in place and they are forced to prove how fast you were going at the time of issuing the infringement, how may times do you think the cops are going to bother to pull you over thinking they can ticket you? I'm quite sure it would be reduced from what it is currently mate.

[Welly-Ray]

Update from NZTA was received this afternoon:

I have made enquiries regarding your question concerning motorcycle lane splitting and filtering and can advise that its currently under review and is expected to be included in next year’s publication (of Rode Code for Motorcyclists).

Not sure what the wording will be in the Rode Code but pretty good start for us in terms of message clarity.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Update from NZTA was received this afternoon:

I have made enquiries regarding your question concerning motorcycle lane splitting and filtering and can advise that its currently under review and is expected to be included in next year’s publication (of Rode Code for Motorcyclists).

Not sure what the wording will be in the Rode Code but pretty good start for us in terms of message clarity.

thats positive in so far as NZTA is aware clarification is needed. I wonder who they are consulting with about this? Any motorcycle groups? BRONZ, Ulysses etc

[Tazz]

Lane splitting is currently illegal. Filtering laws won't make it any less so. There are plenty of other threads about it

Update from NZTA was received this afternoon:

I have made enquiries regarding your question concerning motorcycle lane splitting and filtering and can advise that its currently under review and is expected to be included in next year’s publication (of Rode Code for Motorcyclists).

Not sure what the wording will be in the Rode Code but pretty good start for us in terms of message clarity.

Interesting. My reply the other day said they were not thinking about it at all, but would note the comments