Where are you getting customs duties of $47? Most products have 0% duties including bike parts and almost all electronics. If you're talking about customs charges, you're talking about a couple of dollars once you've spread the cost across a container load of goods.
As mossy says, handling and biosecurity fee, go to the 'whatsmyduty' site to compare.
Once it is all said and done, you may well get it landed for the 25% less that it is on sale for, but as far as picking a product NZ retailers are 'taking the piss' on, you could do better...
Tbh, 25% would probably be enough to make me buy from overseas, and yes it is the overseas retailer who is selling at a cheaper the RRP to begin with, but I don't think you should be so quick to blame NZ retailers without knowing what the fuck you're even talking about.
I find overseas stuff is really god for cheap shit, ebay, aliexpress etc, but the trick is to have many irons in the fire at all times, thatway whenever something finally turns up (times can vary hugely) you got something to do and often it is like christmas when you forget what was ordered
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
As mossy says, handling and biosecurity fee, go to the 'whatsmyduty' site to compare.
Those fees are relatively insignificant across a container of goods.
Originally Posted by bogan
Once it is all said and done, you may well get it landed for the 25% less that it is on sale for, but as far as picking a product NZ retailers are 'taking the piss' on, you could do better...
I wound up going with the cheaper option, the SMH5. Landed in NZ for $256 from Amazon, versus $349 at Cycletreads. That's a difference of 36%, well worth the effort. And if you've ever dealt with Amazon you'd know their service leaves the NZ suppliers in the dust.
When you get hit with the over $400 including freight GST charge 15% you also get a handling and bio security charge on top of the GST now.
I already accounted for GST. I'm asking how you came up with the (very specific) $47 "customs duty" charge on an item that carries no customs duty. Biosecurity charges are minor. I put a quote together with my brother in law (who is an importing agent, dealing with this stuff daily) for a container of food product - the biosecurity charges were insignificant, something like $800 on a container load. The container load was worth something like $25,000.
Those fees are relatively insignificant across a container of goods.
I wound up going with the cheaper option, the SMH5. Landed in NZ for $256 from Amazon, versus $349 at Cycletreads. That's a difference of 36%, well worth the effort. And if you've ever dealt with Amazon you'd know their service leaves the Z suppliers in the dust.
But they are not charged per container of goods, but per transaction. Go to the site, it'll tell you.
Again though, this is not a fair comparison, 256 is under the gst limit, add gst and import fee and you'd be up to 340 odd anyway. I've not dealt with amazon, but I'd question how many NZ suppliers you've dealt with and how reflective of their services your opinions are, I've been happy with CT's service for me, as well as many many other NZ companies. Maybe you're just a cunt?
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
I already accounted for GST. I'm asking how you came up with the (very specific) $47 "customs duty" charge on an item that carries no customs duty. Biosecurity charges are minor. I put a quote together with my brother in law (who is an importing agent, dealing with this stuff daily) for a container of food product - the biosecurity charges were insignificant, something like $800 on a container load. The container load was worth something like $25,000.
Im not buying a container load of parts at a time when I require one part.
$47.00 was the additional charge added onto the 15% I had to pay when I imported a header pipe.
It was made up of several smaller charges customs duty, bio security, processing fee and Handling fee and added up to $47.00(memory im not digging up receipts to get the exact figure).
Every time you get hit on an over $400 purchase you are liable for the extra fees now.
Im expecting $170 in tax on these in the next few weeks. A part that is made by hand in the UK that sells direct to customers and does not discount to dealerships. Made after ordered. Ok its different than trying to get a cheap deal but its still a fair bit to pay. The funny thing is the extra cost only applies when they want collect gst but you would assume processing a less valuable items would cost the same so its user pays and subsidises others if your item costs more.
I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.
But they are not charged per container of goods, but per transaction. Go to the site, it'll tell you.
Again though, this is not a fair comparison, 256 is under the gst limit, add gst and import fee and you'd be up to 340 odd anyway. I've not dealt with amazon, but I'd question how many NZ suppliers you've dealt with and how reflective of their services your opinions are, I've been happy with CT's service for me, as well as many many other NZ companies. Maybe you're just a cunt?
$256 plus GST is $294, and there is no "import fee". Stop making shit up, private buyers don't pay any sort of duties, import duties on these things is 0% for commercial sellers, and fees for biosecurity etc for commercial dealers is insignificant (they're not bring in boxes, but containers).
I thought you were just a wanker when it came to batteries, turns out you're a wanker all together.
$256 plus GST is $294, and there is no "import fee". Stop making shit up, private buyers don't pay any sort of duties, import duties on these things is 0% for commercial sellers, and fees for biosecurity etc for commercial dealers is insignificant (they're not bring in boxes, but containers).
I thought you were just a wanker when it came to batteries, turns out you're a wanker all together.
Item Duty
Motor vehicle parts
Value: 500.00 NZD
Duty: 0.00 NZD
GST: 75.00 NZD
75.00 NZD
GST on freight 0.00 NZD
Total 75.00 NZD IETF* 46.89 NZD
Amount due 121.89 NZD *Import entry transaction fee:
Once the threshold of $60 of duty and/or GST payable is reached, then an import entry transaction fee (IETF) of NZ$46.89 (GST inclusive) is also payable. This includes the Ministry for Primary Industries biosecurity system entry levy of $17.63 (GST inclusive).
Meh, I'm a wanker who is;
a) right (just like for batteries)
b) getting damn good service from the locals
so I'm completely fine with that
"A shark on whiskey is mighty risky, but a shark on beer is a beer engineer" - Tad Ghostal
.........head bearings on my Hayabusa needed the all balls treatment they were in stock. Common part to many bigger bikes. The head bearing for the DR is in the shed somewhere. Was bought for my wife's GN. Same part etc.
Suzuki is pretty good like that. Most of there 250's used the same head bearings
For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round
$256 plus GST is $294, and there is no "import fee". Stop making shit up, private buyers don't pay any sort of duties, import duties on these things is 0% for commercial sellers, and fees for biosecurity etc for commercial dealers is insignificant (they're not bring in boxes, but containers).
I thought you were just a wanker when it came to batteries, turns out you're a wanker all together.
Why dont you try buying something for over $400NZD including freight and claim there is no extra import fees after gst.
The topic is about bypassing your dealer to buying an item not importing yourself a container of parts.
Now your claiming people are mast...ing..
You need to take a time out and a chill pill. Some soap in your mouth could help also.
I have evolved as a KB member.Now nothing I say should be taken seriously.
You'd be lucky to find any bike shop that keeps steering head bearings in stock... our local shop doesn't even stock spark plugs now. There are so many variations its about $$$$ worth of stock to hold when they can be ordered in overnight as needed.
If you were a shop would you want your cash earning interest at bank or stuck in a set of head bearings sitting on shelf for six months....
I'd want bearings for popular models of bike such as the Hayabusa on the shelf so that the customer can get them asap. They actually had around 30 on the shelf, but when you fail to stock even basic items such as brakepads in your workshop thats kind of the line for me.
I would never own a bikeshop, cunts generally work in them and there are easier ways to become broke. Such as gambling, alcohol and hard drugs. All which would be a hell of alot better than having to deal with NZ Harley owners day in day out.
I'd want bearings for popular models of bike such as the Hayabusa on the shelf so that the customer can get them asap. They actually had around 30 on the shelf, but when you fail to stock even basic items such as brakepads in your workshop thats kind of the line for me.
Even if it's not on the shelf but the distributers made an effort to get a listed item I would support the NZ shops even if I had to pay a few dollars more.
However, my experience when I tried to buy locally was that the distributers think they are the only source so they screw you on the price and then take a couple of months to get in the order. I can call up a dealer in the US and get the item cheaper (including the shipping cost) and often within a week. I also have someone to talk to who knows the product lines they stock.
I'm not saying all distributors in NZ are bad (the shorai distributers who posts here was great) but there are a lot of pretty bad ones out there and for the most part if I need something I call a dealer in the US now.
Like I've said, I've imported gear countless times and have NEVER been charged an IETF once.
It's great that the same old nay-sayers can find a link so they can flex their e-peen in yet another pointless online argument but fact is; you can import without having to pay that feel. I would say on about 30% of the stuff I've brought in over $400 they have neglected to charge me GST as well.
Shrug.
It happens.
Like I've said, I've imported gear countless times and have NEVER been charged an IETF once.
It's great that the same old nay-sayers can find a link so they can flex their e-peen in yet another pointless online argument but fact is; you can import without having to pay that feel. I would say on about 30% of the stuff I've brought in over $400 they have neglected to charge me GST as well.
Shrug.
It happens.
Originally Posted by Mike.Gayner
and often it is like christmas when you forget what was ordered
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For the record Qkkid was in my bed, not the other way round
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