What say you - review of motorcycle licences

[R650R]

Back to topic another thread as reminded me of something.
The problem right at the start is we make a big fuss about getting a license after passing the test its treated like some crowning #$%^@* achievement in life, almost as good and 'skillful' as winning the lotto.
We should change it to a 'check' that you can operate to the required standard and are a suitable person to be in charge of one eg no criminal history or nutbars (why do we allow crims to have access to a tool to help shift drugs/stolen goods?) At any moment you could have your approval to operate a vehicle revoked indefinitely if your driving in a manner not of the required standard.
It would work a along the lines of the 85th percentile, anyone not driving like the others gets pulled, no need for fancy technology or signposts everywhere, just take it back to community level respect for locals and road conditions.

[Big Dog]

Ever seen a car do a stoppie?

If ABS wants to allow me to turn it better bloody well kick in before it detects slippage

Seen a few vans / trucks do them.
Higher an more forward COM.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[swbarnett]

eg no criminal history

You don't want anyone to be able to turn their life around, do you?

At any moment you could have your approval to operate a vehicle revoked indefinitely if your driving in a manner not of the required standard.

The problem with with is that the standard will change from year to year. As with anything, society evolves (or devolves, depending on your point of view).

It would work a along the lines of the 85th percentile, anyone not driving like the others gets pulled

So, if I'm the only lemming that isn't jumping I'm the one that's targeted. Simply because an action is performed by the majority does not mean it's the sensible course of action. Rubber-necking is a perfect example.

[The Reibz]

Ever seen a car do a stoppie?

I was in a van that did one a few months ago, it was a beautiful thing

[bluninja]

What...like this?
http://youtu.be/FD1PXzA7DEI

[R650R]

You don't want anyone to be able to turn their life around, do you?


The problem with with is that the standard will change from year to year. As with anything, society evolves (or devolves, depending on your point of view).


So, if I'm the only lemming that isn't jumping I'm the one that's targeted. Simply because an action is performed by the majority does not mean it's the sensible course of action. Rubber-necking is a perfect example.

I don't know about turning lives around, rehabs not a speciality of mine. But repeat offenders seem to doa fine job of turning other people lives upside down by using cars to flee burglaries with peoples belongings or in the latest case here in the bay, a hit and run on cop at checkpoint....

The 'standard' would work much the way police do now, they already pick out the anxious driver wizzing in and out of lanes, accelerating rapidly etc.... All that would change is less paperwork, no roadside pedantic arguments over how many km/h or how long the skid mark was. Just hey mate your driving's shit! "Yeah Iknow I'm sorry, write me out the ticket"...

Don't start me on rubber necking! You are actually required by law to do that. When passing an accident scene you MUST by law slow to 20km/h if the police accident signs out, of course this creates a tailback. And if your already been held up and only doing 20 you may as well look out the window as you pass.

[swbarnett]

I don't know about turning lives around, rehabs not a speciality of mine. But repeat offenders seem to doa fine job of turning other people lives upside down by using cars to flee burglaries with peoples belongings or in the latest case here in the bay, a hit and run on cop at checkpoint....

So what you're saying is you want more of this? Accepting that people can and do change is one requirement of a compassionate society and reduces the overall number of offenders.

The 'standard' would work much the way police do now, they already pick out the anxious driver wizzing in and out of lanes, accelerating rapidly etc.... All that would change is less paperwork, no roadside pedantic arguments over how many km/h or how long the skid mark was. Just hey mate your driving's shit! "Yeah Iknow I'm sorry, write me out the ticket"...

Some driving is so bad as to be judged accurately from a 5 second observation. Then there's that in the middle that may look bad at a casual observation but is in actual fact perfectly fine. The one thing that can't be judged from outside is the state of mind of the driver/rider. It's usually the good little boys and girls "toeing the line" that are the most dangerous as they are generally the most distracted.

Don't start me on rubber necking! You are actually required by law to do that. When passing an accident scene you MUST by law slow to 20km/h if the police accident signs out,

Surely not if the accident is on the far side of a divided motorway?

[nzspokes]

So what you're saying is you want more of this? Accepting that people can and do change is one requirement of a compassionate society and reduces the overall number of offenders.

So does a bullet which is a permanent solution.

[swbarnett]

So does a bullet which is a permanent solution.

True in the individual case but it's likely to lead to more crime in the long run.