Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Big Dog]

But by riding less days a year you are less exposed to screw ups made by other drivers which would make things safer unless of course you felt more unsafe about your own riding ability if you did not ride every day. My thinking is by not riding everyday I am safer due to not being so exposed to any screw ups of other drivers. If you think about it insurance companies charge higher premiums for commercial vehicles because they are on the road all day and the chance of a claim is far greater.

As stated the main reason for my belief is that I have less fuel etc to spend on developing further or taking some training.
Ergo I will have less skills than in years of yore.

And definitely. Even 4 weeks off earlier this year for the arrival of my latest offspring left me feeling odd and braking late for a few weeks, worse I did not have that "Spidey sense".
The parts of your skill set that will save you in an OMG moment don't involve conscious thought.
Your access to skills you don't use degrades over time... a 1/2 life if you will. Same thing as affects born again bikers but less dramatic.

[Ocean1]

What was the major decline, and was it normalised by kms travelled? And what is the standard decline due to better cars/roads?

Yup. Biggest short term variable is the price of fuel.

Longer term is vehicle tech improvements.

Enforcement policy is a small blip by comparison.

[BlackSheepLogic]

The only thing I loose when I have not ridden on a long trip for a while is a bit of fitness and I always feel better on the way home with the muscles getting freed up on the way. It is certainly not a feeling of feeling less safe though.

Well, as per a different thread, you need to be willing to critically assess your riding before what Big Dog wrote would make sense to you.

[Taxythingy]

Been off the bike since it was totalled in May. Finally bought a bike again a week ago and farrk was I rusty. Physically riding was ok, but the roadcraft, thinking ahead, planning escape routes and stuff was terrible. Good thing I wasn't given any idiot drivers to deal with. I rode like a nana on the way home.

Didn't expect that part to be so far behind.

[Big Dog]

Don't worry I will most definitely give up riding if I ever feel my ability is turning to shit. I would end up dead if I didn't.

How would you know?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[bogan]

There has been ample use of GPS including phone based ones to set court precendents in NZ that they are accurate representation of speed in serious accident cases.
A court judge stated this during a mates case where he decided against the location aspect (for logbook case) being kosha as it had not been tested in court before among other factors.

So it is bullshit then, cos precedents for speed estimation in a serious accident is a lot different to "GPS is gold standard undisputable evidence for speed"

Yup. Biggest short term variable is the price of fuel.

Longer term is vehicle tech improvements.

Enforcement policy is a small blip by comparison.

Yeh, but if the plod gives enough speeding fines, it will drive the price/km up to simulate a fuel price rise

[bogan]

How would you know?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

She might have a myriad of accidents that were avoidable?

[nzspokes]

If I started having accidents or close shaves that were my fault and not the fault of anyone else. What will be your indicator that it's time to give up riding?

When I ride like you.

[mossy1200]

Sorry to interrupt.

Has anyone been issued a ticket for exceeding by less than 10 other than Tax camera?

[Big Dog]

If I started having accidents or close shaves that were my fault and not the fault of anyone else. What will be your indicator that it's time to give up riding?

When my faculties are sufficiently diminished that I think that I am a good rider who keeps having events happen to me through no fault of my own.

The common denominator in all my accidents and whoopsies? Me.
What I can change? Me.
Who is responsible for my fate? Me.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[Big Dog]

Sorry to interrupt.

Has anyone been issued a ticket for exceeding by less than 10 other than Tax camera?

The last time I was in Dunkin' Donuts I got charged for the 12+1 free deal. I only got 12. They give you a ticket. Does that count?


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[bogan]

When my faculties are sufficiently diminished that I think that I am a good rider who keeps having events happen to me through no fault of my own.

The common denominator in all my accidents and whoopsies? Me.
What I can change? Me.
Who is responsible for my fate? Me.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

You missed out one

Who will come off second best in an accident (regardless of fault)? Me.

[Scuba_Steve]

Sorry to interrupt.

Has anyone been issued a ticket for exceeding by less than 10 other than Tax camera?

Yes but not anytime recently

[mossy1200]

Yes but not anytime recently

Bet Akzle would get one if he was pulled over. Not sure many who were not rude would.
Its even likely those pulled for 111 could get downgraded to 109. Not sure if this still happens its been long time since speeding ticket now.

[rastuscat]

Bet Akzle would get one if he was pulled over. Not sure many who were not rude would.
Its even likely those pulled for 111 could get downgraded to 109. Not sure if this still happens its been long time since speeding ticket now.

Interesting. It's called discounting. Officers have been known to drop speeds into the next band down.

It saves the punter money and on the stats it makes the officer appear to be enforcing the lower tolerance. Win win.

Only it's unethical. Once that happens. What's to stop the same Popo from stepping up a band?

The management knows it happens and its a disciplinary issue if found.

Just FYI