Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[R650R]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11369061

Well it seems Green policies are killing the most people now. Its time to ban car-pooling (passengers), cycling and walking.
As a group these people make up 108 people killed this year, about a third of the road toll.
And they weren't even speeding or drinking alcohol. They might still be alive if they had their own cars to drive...

But it seesm the greens do like polluting cars after all when it suits them.... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/n...ectid=11369759

"But Green Party transport spokeswoman Julie Anne Genter says motorists should consider the extra burden on the climate and congested roads before pulling out all stops this summer.

"There's nothing wrong with driving cars except that if everyone tries to do it at the same time, it makes it hard for anyone to get anywhere," she said."

[R650R]

Interesting. It's called discounting. Officers have been known to drop speeds into the next band down.

It saves the punter money and on the stats it makes the officer appear to be enforcing the lower tolerance. Win win.

Only it's unethical. Once that happens. What's to stop the same Popo from stepping up a band?

The management knows it happens and its a disciplinary issue if found.

Just FYI

Had one of HB's top traffic cops do that for me and mate years ago, said it was because I was so polite about the whole matter.
He even told us to behave as their was another mufti car ahead. A win win really because it calmed the whole experience and we obeyed the speed limit afterwards as we knew there was another cop up road.

[R650R]

So it is real then even though I don't like the idea and cant understand it.

fixed that for you

[Scuba_Steve]

Interesting. It's called discounting. Officers have been known to drop speeds into the next band down.

It saves the punter money and on the stats it makes the officer appear to be enforcing the lower tolerance. Win win.

Only it's unethical. Once that happens. What's to stop the same Popo from stepping up a band?

The management knows it happens and its a disciplinary issue if found.

Just FYI

No unethical is inforcing the speed scam in the 1st place; it's also illegal but thats another story

[Mo NZ]

What's to stop the same Popo from stepping up a band?

Same thing as this.

Like the cop who flicks a guy in.
Said I have just check your speed at ...
The rider asked if he could view the radar as he was sure he wasn't.
It showed patrol ground speed of 80 odd kph.
Which was amazing as the officer had been parked on the side of the road at the time.

[pritch]

Its know-it-all old fucks that worry me.

Hey! Don't pick on me

[R650R]

Same thing as this.

Like the cop who flicks a guy in.
Said I have just check your speed at ...
The rider asked if he could view the radar as he was sure he wasn't.
It showed patrol ground speed of 80 odd kph.
Which was amazing as the officer had been parked on the side of the road at the time.

There was a learner cop who tried to ticket b-train for 120km/h at Karapiro... on the flat with a truck that was limited to 103....
Lucky his colleague realised he had radared a car behind him going the other way and took the ticket book off him lol....

[Taxythingy]

Jeeez, I didn't think it was that hard.

I got to ping about a dozen cars in Marlborough while taking a slightly expensive rest on the side of the road. Officer was good for a chat as well. That taught me to take a break when getting tired.

[R650R]

There would be more motorcyclists alive if they had been driving cars at the time of their crash too and the same could be said about some car drivers if they were driving anything bigger at the time of their crash. I think you will find most people cycle or walk to get fit and save money rather than do it with the Green intention of cooling the planet.

Hey stop applying logic and reasoning to my internet forum ramblings. As this is a pro motorcycle site any mc data is automatically excluded when debunking govt propaganda...

[GrayWolf]

bukake!


you can fuck right off. There are 12 year olds i would give the keys to any vehicle up to the 4.0. Mainly to drive me home from the pub, but still.

Im not your average fuckwit, i wouldnt trusted with grandmas tercel.

I'm the know it all fuckwt that you should be worried about.

there fixed it for you

[bogan]

fixed that for you

Fuck off, it is precisely because i do understand it that i know it is not an authoritive instantaneous speed reading like a cop's radar is.

[Akzle]

there fixed it for you

no you didnt.

[R650R]

Fuck off, it is precisely because i do understand it that i know it is not an authoritive instantaneous speed reading like a cop's radar is.

Authoritive??? Instantaneous??? Jesus Christ....

Anything produced in court as evidence by an appropriate party from suitable sources is deemed plenty enough reputable status behind it.
The case I watched the judge stated that speed evidence from GPS was already COMPLETELY accepted by the court but permitted the defence to challenge the location aspect (even though to get accurate gps speed reading it means an accurate triangulation of locations in sequence) as it hadn't been used before.

A radar on your timeline of reaction speeds might be instantaneous but then so is GPS. Depending on the system it might not be taking a measurement to the target as often per second but is still an accurate measure of the kilometres per hour travelled and therefore the rate of. A GPS as more authority too if you like as the data is 100% assigned to the target device/transponder via its serial number.
Police radar however does not designate its target, it merely indicates that an object in its field of view is travelling at speed x and this may be the target vehicle or a ghost reflection off trees.
Only military radar operating in Doppler mode can designate which object in the field of view is actually the one measured.

You can keep on not liking it but the fact is soon enough the GPS cellphone in your pocket will be your licence/ID card and personal policeman. In metro areas all the extra wifi locations will enable even further accuracy.

[BlackSheepLogic]

If an officer determines by whatever means they chose that I'm exceeding the designated speed limit I'm most likely going to get a ticket which I'm going to have to pay. It really is that simple.

Police radar however does not designate its target, it merely indicates that an object in its field of view is travelling at speed x and this may be the target vehicle or a ghost reflection off trees.
Only military radar operating in Doppler mode can designate which object in the field of view is actually the one measured

[R650R]

If an officer determines by whatever means they chose that I'm exceeding the designated speed limit I'm most likely going to get a ticket which I'm going to have to pay. It really is that simple.

Yep 100% agree. How many of the clever dicks can afford a day off for a trivial court case that they'll likely lose without a $10,000 lawyer anyway....
At least while all these pedantic types are roadside asking for these documents the rest of us can rock on past.
Got a ticket once being followed by a mufti with 'calibrated speedo'. Now could have played the game but the fact was he followed me for several kms and we were consistently well above the limit and the speed ticket for certainly wasn't the peak speed achieved when lighting up out of junction on GSXR1100L.... Spoke nicely and got a 5k discount, meanwhile my mate who had just started Uni winged like a bitch and nearly got us more tickets!!!