Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

**scumdog** · 11th December 2014, 21:29

Originally Posted by Akzle

it makes you look like a fucking moron

Morons can fuck??

Shoooweee, there's hope for you yet Rob!

.

**Berries** · 11th December 2014, 22:55

Originally Posted by scumdog

Morons can fuck??

And I thought you knew Kai?

**scumdog** · 12th December 2014, 05:39

Originally Posted by Berries

And I thought you knew Kai?

Even there they can't!

**R650R** · 12th December 2014, 06:03

Originally Posted by bogan

Another well informed poster who has to devolve into producing evidence from the horses mouth to show how right he is... .

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...peeds-accurate read it and weep my bitch

**Laava** · 12th December 2014, 06:46

Originally Posted by scumdog

Morons can fuck?:.

Even worse, they can breed!

**awayatc** · 12th December 2014, 06:49

Morons breed like fuck......

**bogan** · 12th December 2014, 07:06

Originally Posted by R650R

http://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/news...peeds-accurate read it and weep my bitch

That'll be that doppler effect speed calcs i alluded to earlier. Now tell me, is that what phone/tablet uses for speed readings?

**BlackSheepLogic** · 12th December 2014, 08:01

Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi

That certainly makes sense from the perspective of actual data and stats derived from them. Perception is a very powerful thing though and can influence as strongly as actual evidence. If there is a perception a police officer is not dealt to by the same laws it really doesn't matter what has actually happened

Per KM traveled the police accident rate is probably quite low compared to the average license holder (they are trained to a higher level). Because they are in the public eye any mistake makes the news. Many years when I severally scratched up my bike (100% my fault, single vehicle) it did not make the news and I was not ticketed either.

I don't know the facts in this case but I do wonder why in generally the public & media want to see officers punished to the maximum extent possible under the law while we ourselves expect the police to use discretion when we fuck up.

**Akzle** · 12th December 2014, 10:56

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

Per KM traveled the police accident rate is probably quite low compared to the average license holder (they are trained to a higher level). Because they are in the public eye any mistake makes the news. Many years when I severally scratched up my bike (100% my fault, single vehicle) it did not make the news and I was not ticketed either.

I don't know the facts in this case but I do wonder why in generally the public & media want to see officers punished to the maximum extent possible under the law while we ourselves expect the police to use discretion when we fuck up.

cry me a fucking river.

better trained? are they really? and, if that the case, is there EVER an excuse for them to be at fault?
it really doesnt take a whole lot to not fuck up.

i constantly wonder that "the average license holder" manages to put food in the right hole often enough to stay alive,
but no, there are many professional/enthusiastic road users who would clock up as many or more KMs that the average po without incident.
anyone who fucks up anyone elses day at any time should be keel hauled.

**Big Dog** · 12th December 2014, 12:46

Originally Posted by bogan

That'll be that doppler effect speed calcs i alluded to earlier. Now tell me, is that what phone/tablet uses for speed readings?

I doubt it given my iPhone is accurate to 45 meters claimed and my Garmin claims 6feet stationary and 9 feet in motion.
Even then my icon on either may be offset by up to 30 meters in motion by the software to accommodate variations between road and map etc.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**Big Dog** · 12th December 2014, 12:49

Also poll interval is generally variable on cellphones or other hand helps. Vehicle mounted normally aren't. Though when I was shopping around I saw some models allow you to halve the poll rate on battery.

Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

**Reckless** · 12th December 2014, 15:36

Looks like they are doin it guys 3 so far

Came off Michael Laws Facebook (dunno why it came up on mine??) Link to stuff article.

Michael Laws
27 mins · Timaru ·
Memo: NZ Police
Topic: Being arseholes & losing public support
Just keep doing what you're doing: your traffic section should have ruined the entire goodwill of the NZ Police by the end of Christmas holidays.

Stuff http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...zero-tolerance

Police fine speeding drivers under zero tolerance
Police have fined three drivers for speeding under 5kmh over the limit.
National road policing manager Superintendent Carey Griffiths said this showed officers had used their discretion "appropriately".
Police said they would ticket drivers travelling even 1kmh over the limit during the summer period.
Three motorists were ticketed in the first week.
"Our staff will continue to use their discretion and their judgment to fairly deal with drivers if stopped for speeding," Griffiths said.
Whether or not someone received an infringement depended on road and weather conditions, their driving behaviour and their risk to other motorists.
"The limit is still the limit, which is the maximum legally safe speed to travel on that section of road in ideal conditions."
Speed cameras were set to a reduced 4km/h threshold over summer, but it would take several weeks before infringement numbers were known, he said.

Links to other articles ( which I dont have time to read atm)
http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central...losing-respect

**Murray** · 12th December 2014, 15:58

Originally Posted by rastuscat

I can tell the speed difference to maybe 5kmh difference, but to 1kmh? Nah, that's beyond me.

And the zero tolerance hubbub was caused by the media, not us. I doubt anyone has been tagged for 1 over. And if they have, it's be unusual circumstance.