Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[haydes55]

You have a better understanding than them by saying there is only a possible chance by swerving or braking you will avoid others screwing up.

They think there is nothing possible about it at all but it is certain they can avoid others screwups due to their experience avoiding them in the past. Others that screw up on the road due so at varying speeds/distances which is the message I was trying to get through to them and they have just been lucky so far.

Well nothing can just materialise in your path.

[Akzle]

Well nothing can just materialise in your path.

apparently: bricks.

[Akzle]

Well nothing can just materialise in your path.

apparently: bricks. (and very fast dogs : )

[BigAl]

Well nothing can just materialise in your path.

Yes they can

[R650R]

Young people these days are tired of the fake shock and awe ads, most know that the mainstream media is a bought and paid for sideshow, so why should they take note of tv ads clearly funded by a govt agency....
Russian Dashcams where its at, I connect with that stuff and it slows me down.... Its real and it happened to someone out there...
Maybe its time the govt gave up on the hearts and minds thing with road safety. Just look at the Americans, even with bombs and regime change they have trouble getting people to change their longly held beliefs.
The only thi9ng you can do is write off everyone who already has a license as a lost cause and just concentrate on the new learner drivers coming through. These new tests where everyone is crying that are too hard are just what we needed....

Check out how fast this all happened, don't know the road but looks like 100k zone???

Logging Truck Accident SH1, near Caltex Oakleigh, just south of Whangarei Logging truck had mechanical failure, heading South, crosses centre line in to bank and rolls. CCTV capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V286OZ5Ks6U

[Big Dog]

Check out how fast this all happened, don't know the road but looks like 100k zone???

Logging Truck Accident SH1, near Caltex Oakleigh, just south of Whangarei Logging truck had mechanical failure, heading South, crosses centre line in to bank and rolls. CCTV capture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V286OZ5Ks6U

And that would be the small percentage that Cassina bangs in about. Braking alone would not save a rider if they were where the grey car was.

I can't say having never been in the situation exactly. I would like to think if there was no clear path to choose I would scrub off as much speed as I can before taking
My chances in that gravel lay away to the right. Maybe even go further off road if required.

I have had to do something similar once when I found a police car coming the other way in my lane around a blind corner. Lights no siren. Took the 'busa over the curb at a driveway point, across bare soil and back out into the lane.
I doubted I would make it but figured sliding into some gum trees would hurt less than a police car in pursuit. Pretty sure the driver got a fright. He slowed down, his siren went on and he sped back up.


Another time on the 'busa I was not so in the right and a set of lights came up rapidly behind me and I ducked into a gap in the traffic I was filtering past hoping the lights were not for me. They were not, but now I found the person behind me was not actually aware I had adopted his space and showed no indication he was slowing but the car in front was.
I elected to go left and gave the throttle a wee tickle crossed the curb went onto the soil. Softer than I thought the front tucked as soon as I let off the gas. So I got back on and aimed for a ridge in the soil hoping what I had read in Dirt Rider Downunder was true.

The 'busa tracked beautifully and the ridge spat me back out onto the road behind the fog line. Much more cautious after that.

You won't win every time and neither have I.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[haydes55]

Check out how fast this all happened, don't know the road but looks like 100k zone???



Logging Truck Accident SH1, near Caltex Oakleigh, just south of Whangarei Logging truck had mechanical failure, heading South, crosses centre line in to bank and rolls. CCTV capture



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The video doesn't show much of the initiation of the crash. By the time the car started braking there were logs coming down the road.... I'd expect any alert rider would have started braking by the time the truck started to tip over, maybe even earlier. It's hard to not see a truck going through the median into your lane

[R650R]

The video doesn't show much of the initiation of the crash. By the time the car started braking there were logs coming down the road.... I'd expect any alert rider would have started braking by the time the truck started to tip over, maybe even earlier. It's hard to not see a truck going through the median into your lane

Your very much one of Rastus's classic it will never happen to me candidates. The thread is about speed tolerance.
I posted the vid as an example of you never know what will happen next. From when it goes into the ditch on left then crosses over looks pretty fast to me...

[caspernz]

The video doesn't show much of the initiation of the crash. By the time the car started braking there were logs coming down the road.... I'd expect any alert rider would have started braking by the time the truck started to tip over, maybe even earlier. It's hard to not see a truck going through the median into your lane

Your very much one of Rastus's classic it will never happen to me candidates. The thread is about speed tolerance.
I posted the vid as an example of you never know what will happen next. From when it goes into the ditch on left then crosses over looks pretty fast to me...

The road curves to the right for the car, so it's even possible that the initiation of the trucks' demise was beyond the car drivers' line of sight. Just because myself and Ray are both truckers isn't the reason I'd disagree with Haydes, the unforeseen is what catches you out when riding a little too swift for the conditions. Hate to say it, but I've seen a few drivers and riders arse up when going too fast for the conditions...

[scumdog]

apparently: bricks. (and very fast dogs : )

And cop cars duing U-turns!

[Swoop]

The suggestion made to ban trucks from the fast lane, this may surprise you with me being a career trucker, I'd 100% support that. But on the proviso that we ban overtaking on the left and rigidly enforce the keep left rule.

A silly question.
Is there some unwritten rule for trucks to always use the middle lane on motorways?
Around Auckland there is a massive amount of this happening. Very rarely do I see a truck in the left hand lane (of the three available).

[FJRider]

Is there some unwritten rule for trucks to always use the middle lane on motorways?

It's a convenience thing ... convenient for the drivers at the time ... as it avoids the slowest traffic in the left lane. And keeps the right (fast .. ???) lane free for faster traffic.


And ... totally legal.

[Gremlin]

A silly question.
Is there some unwritten rule for trucks to always use the middle lane on motorways?
Around Auckland there is a massive amount of this happening. Very rarely do I see a truck in the left hand lane (of the three available).

Pfft, seems to be increasing numbers using the right hand lane (ie, fast/overtaking lane)...

[caspernz]

A silly question.
Is there some unwritten rule for trucks to always use the middle lane on motorways?
Around Auckland there is a massive amount of this happening. Very rarely do I see a truck in the left hand lane (of the three available).

It's the safest approach during periods of high traffic volumes, well, until Kiwi drivers learn that little thing called merging

[haydes55]

Pfft, seems to be increasing numbers using the right hand lane (ie, fast/overtaking lane)...

No, the left hand lane is the fast/overtaking lane. The last 3 times I've been up in Auckland using the motorways, I sat in the slow lane doing 100km/h (+/- 40km/h) and barely had to change lanes to overtake everyone. The left lane had way less traffic.