Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[rastuscat]

Most of us don't live in text books with. At 100Km/h I hit anything head-on my chances of survival are very low as are my chances if I'm run over at 100Km/h. The critical factor is not the speed at that point but how the impact occurs (what I hit, how I hit it, and at what angle I hit it).

Critical factor? Does that mean it's the only factor?

As soon as we can control how impacts occur, it'll make it a better bet than trying to regulate the impacts by reducing speed.

[haydes55]

You're presuming riders are hitting objects at 100km/h or 110km/h. A bike can brake pretty quick, usually faster than accelerating. If an accident is immanent, and 1 second away from impact, 1 second of braking could get 100km/h down to 70ish (presuming the first second is a bit slower because the brake lever is eased on. If a bike can accelerate to 100 in 3 seconds, it could most likely stop in 3 seconds from 100.

For more arguments, usually a motorcyclist will end up a fair distance away from a crash site, we aren't strapped to anything, where a car might have a deceleration time of 0.3 seconds a motorcyclist might have an spike decelerating half their energy in 0.3 seconds, then the other half dissipated over 2 seconds of sliding and rolly pollies.

So Mr. physics calculate the Gs of a rider going 150km/h braking for a second to 120km/h with an initial deceleration to 60km/h over 0.3 seconds then to 0 in 2 more seconds.

[schrodingers cat]

Energy from not crashing in the first place? Sweet fuck all.

Best insurance policy there is. Unfortunately the more hopeless the average road user becomes the risk of being caught up in someone else's horseshit is increasing

[schrodingers cat]

Sorry, I let the team down today.

I focussed on cellphones, seatbelts, traffic lights and stop signs.

I'm pretty sure all the people I dealt with would have preferred me to be looking for speed, but that's human nature.

Super that you did your job today

My point is, most of the time I can't even achieve the level speed limit much less exceed it.
I don't give a fuck what tolerance you enforce ( cruise control me) but seriously, the speed mantra isn't enough.

[scumdog]

Super that you did your job today

I don't give a fuck what tolerance you enforce ( cruise control me) but seriously, the speed mantra isn't enough.

We know that!

But scads of numpties on here think that the 'speed mantra' is the total focus...

[awayatc]

Unfortunately the cats needle seems to be stuck at the " if you reduce speed you reduce blah blah blah whatever....."
Even more unfortunate is that that cat is a cop.....
and lots more cops stuck in same groove.
just because you are a good guy, (and therefore most likely also a fair cop)
Doesnt mean all cops are ok..
police headshed have got their heads so far up their arses they believe a fart is a breath of fresh air.....
sorry scummy....police arent our friends and helpers anymore

[Scuba_Steve]

We know that!

But scads of numpties on here think that the 'speed mantra' is the total focus...

Maybee you have the propaganda machine & your gangs PR dept to thank for that

[haydes55]

We know that!



But scads of numpties on here think that the 'speed mantra' is the total focus...

Probably because I've never heard of or seen a driver pulled over or ticketed for anything not speed related (well I know a few ticketed for using a phone while driving and sustained loss of traction).

I've never seen the most dangerous of driving ever been attempted to be addressed. At the moment Hamilton have a road safety campaign that is a waste of advertising. "use your head, stop on red"...... Seriously, that's what they want to bring to the forefront of road users? Common sense, that I haven't seen anyone breach.... And I do a fuckload of driving around Hamilton.

I'd love to create a new job in the police force, the head of common sense policies. That would save millions of wasted dollars and lives. Have the position secret, so the commissioner can still be PC, but make every decision get the approval of someone with common sense.

[R650R]

Congratulations to the NZ Police.
The unofficial speed limit on open roads seems to now be about 80km/h

We now know all speedos read high

We've been sold the idea that speed is the single biggest killer on NZ roads

We've been told the 'Focussing on Speed' reduces road fatalities (sometimes it looks like it, other times not)

Exceeding 100kph means that your speedo is likely reading MUCH HIGHER and therefore travelling at legal NZ open road speeds makes you a selfish potential murderer and psychopath

The result is most retarded bumfucks on out road live in fear and travel at an indicated 90 - 92 kph - just in case. They won't pass any of the trucks and morons in camper vans that clog our roads and so the whole clusterfuck dawdles along at 80kmh at best

Will they pull over? Will they fuck! They have virtue and the law on their side

And at the end of the day its probably for the best since our roads and driver education system are so shitty. Driving slow gives the morons time to react.

So good work NZ Government(s) Pocket the money from the various road related taxes, don't spend it and allow the police to return a sizable chunk of cashflow through secondary forms of taxation (fines etc)

Merry fucking ho ho ho

None of that behaviour is new... the lemmings have been driving like that for at least the last ten years.... its worse in holiday periods but nothing to do with the cops.

If you carefully observe the species known as ditherus maximus you'll note they are going slow as they are paying no attention what so ever to what is happening outside the car....

[R650R]

Probably because I've never heard of or seen a driver pulled over or ticketed for anything not speed related (well I know a few ticketed for using a phone while driving and sustained loss of traction).

I've never seen the most dangerous of driving ever been attempted to be addressed.

I have... an oncoming driver going north out of Taurange on SH2 kept on coming round the traffic as the passing lane ended and across the yellow lines. He wasn't speeding, just driving stupid.
I took moderate evasive action and dipped my trailer wheels onto the well maintained but dusty shoulder to get the cops attention, he spun round pretty swift and nailed him.
Passing lane ended on a gentle left hand bend uphill.

[mossy1200]

You can see when riding the texters are back in force just doing it down low making it more dangerous.
The talkers are back also.

Focus lost and old habits returned.



Now this would be fun

[Akzle]

txting while driving isnt dangerous.
Looking for cops while txting while driving is.

but make every decision get the approval of someone with common sense.

it'll never catch on!

[Big Dog]

I saw a study two days ago which said that was crap, apparently springtime is the most common time

Another day another study. Trouble with all these studies is no matter what your opinion someone has to piss on the bonfire.

I don't speak for any other Christians but I often suffer quite severe depression leading up to Christmas. Years where there is no financial pressure it goes away by New Years. Years with a bit of additional stress it hangs around till my birthday.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[rastuscat]

txting while driving isnt dangerous.
Looking for cops while txting while driving is.

So, all those people who have crashed their cars while texting were looking for cops?

Before it was illegal, people crashed while texting. That's why it was made illegal.

Um, is that a hole in your argument I just drove a truck through?

[DMNTD:Me]

Sorry, I let the team down today.

I focussed on cellphones, seatbelts, traffic lights and stop signs.

Excellent, any chance your crew can carry on with those checks?
Scariest part of riding or driving down here are the red light runners and tail gating