Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Conquiztador]

And with the "No Tolerance For Speeding" that was in place this holiday period we had more killed on the road than last year... We have arrived at the number that is what we can expect with current roads, traffic law, amount of vehicles on the road etc. To now get a big drop in traffic deaths something, that in a major way changes the game, has to be implemented. Like taking one wheel off all cars... To throw more money on traffic policing, add campains, alcohol blitzes, or any of the current measures that are in place, will not make any big impact.

[FJRider]

And with the "No Tolerance For Speeding" that was in place this holiday period we had more killed on the road than last year...

So ... what percentage of those killed were traveling OVER the posted speed limit .. ???

It might be hard to apply a "No Tolerance" if they were not speeding.

[FJRider]

I am getting confused now. The open road speed limit is 100km/h. If you exceed that limit and are caught you should expect a ticket. Seems almost too simple to me.

But .. But .. But ... if the tolerance is 10 km/hr ... 110 is then "legal". No tolerance means 101 km/hr is 'legal".

[FJRider]

mrs S knows that there must have been a tolerance coz the sitting under the tree just as we went past after passing a ute along the straight

The cop would have been asleep ... or on the phone to his/her missus ...


Or your overtaking just was not seen as dangerous.

[Conquiztador]

So ... what percentage of those killed were traveling OVER the posted speed limit .. ???

It might be hard to apply a "No Tolerance" if they were not speeding.

Well, the point really is that focusing on the speed as the solution to it all is clearly not working. Infact it might be counter productive (more killed this year...)

[FJRider]

Well, the point really is that focusing on the speed as the solution to it all is clearly not working. Infact it might be counter productive (more killed this year...)

No tolerance is for speeds OVER the posted speed limit. If crashes and deaths occur with vehicles UNDER the posted speed limit ... the "No tolerance" does not enter/apply to ... the "Cause" equation in the resulting accident report ...

[mossy1200]

Nothing new - I've always done it.

But the 101kph thing is a right 'they sky is falling', people all 'assumed' they WOULD get a ticket for 1kph over the speed limit and drove accordingly.

Why do so many people always latch onto the most negative aspect of anything - and treat it as gospel????


'And they walk amongst us'

All the signs around wellington say 100 and if your over you will be stopped. That will be why.

[FJRider]

All the signs around wellington say 100 and if your over you will be stopped. That will be why.

I'm not in Welington so I don't care.

Obviously then ... the "Tolerance" does NOT apply to ME ...

[mossy1200]

I'm not in Welington so I don't care.

Obviously then ... the "Tolerance" does NOT apply to ME ...

Unless your passing through the area your all good.

[FJRider]

Unless your passing through the area your all good.

I'm trying to avoid the place ... it's working so far ...

[Conquiztador]

No tolerance is for speeds OVER the posted speed limit. If crashes and deaths occur with vehicles UNDER the posted speed limit ... the "No tolerance" does not enter/apply to ... the "Cause" equation in the resulting accident report ...

The way to get the numbers down was to police so hard that we would NOT go over the speed limit. Money was spent telling us that, tickets were issued. We were to be bent in to shape! We are now hearing that it worked (less speeding tickets, so obviously the "message" is getting home). BUT THERE WERE MORE KILLED ON OUR ROADS!! I therefore ask; When will it become clear that the speed is NOT the problem? That making the speed the most important thing is wrong? That scare tactics and punishment is not working?

[FJRider]

The way to get the numbers down was to police so hard that we would NOT go over the speed limit. Money was spent telling us that, tickets were issued. We were to be bent in to shape! We are now hearing that it worked (less speeding tickets, so obviously the "message" is getting home). BUT THERE WERE MORE KILLED ON OUR ROADS!! I therefore ask; When will it become clear that the speed is NOT the problem? That making the speed the most important thing is wrong? That scare tactics and punishment is not working?

Perhaps ... no tolerance on stupidity ...


Open season folks ...

[awayatc]

Nothing new - I've always done it.

But the 101kph thing is a right 'they sky is falling', people all 'assumed' they WOULD get a ticket for 1kph over the speed limit and drove accordingly.

Why do so many people always latch onto the most negative aspect of anything - and treat it as gospel????


'And they walk amongst us'

why did we treated it as gospel. ?.?

because of WHO was delivering the warnings (threats)..

and how often....

on the TV, on the radio...., on posters....papers etc etc etc.

we didnt make it up.

if somebody says he has a gun and is gonna shoot you, would you react to that ?
or do you only do something after you see the gun/ get shot .?

[swbarnett]

Perhaps ... no tolerance on stupidity ...

Unfortunately that would deny what it is to be human. No point hitting people for something that's beyond their control.

[haydes55]

Who has heard the phrase "I'm a safe driver, I never speed"?

All too often muttered by the very people who fill morgues.

For far too long the message of speed kills has been the one slogan and almost sole target for police (as a general rule). People are driving dangerously, but below the speed limit. I'd hazard a guess there will be 20 speed related "safety" ads for every ad that mentions poor driving, yet speed without poor driving is safer than eating a marshmallow. But driving dangerously below the speed limit kills hundreds of peoplea year (last stat I heard was 80% of fatalities occurred below the speed limit).

Change the mentality of average Joe from "I'm safe, I don't speed" to "I drive safely and defensively to survive". That would reduce the road toll, that would be as simple as a few ads addressing actual common driver errors. Actually enforcing every other traffic law.

Sidenote, why don't we have higher speed limits for arterial routes? Discourage use of minor roads, which are usually in worse condition, speed up travel times, so less time spent on the road and keep drivers focussed on driving, instead of going into zombie mode.