Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[pete376403]

At one time there was a fixed camera at the top of Wainui hill, got "adjusted" a few times
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...d-with-a-guard

[rastuscat]

It was sent to my employer (work vehicle) they take the $30 from my pay. If it was filed I will get a copy and post it here.

Wow, that's a can of worms.

There's a process established in 1992 that provides for a statutory declaration by the vehicle owner to transfer the ticket into your name. The ticket gets reissued in the name of the person who was actually driving, giving them the rights that were originally assigned to the vehicle owner i.e. pay the ticket, or challenge it.

The way your company does it, what happens if you want to challenge the ticket? It's in their name, how can you challenge it personally?

What happens if you want to request a hearing on it?

[Scuba_Steve]

At one time there was a fixed camera at the top of Wainui hill, got "adjusted" a few times
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/cri...d-with-a-guard

I'm told they were doing work to re-establish that camera bout a week ago.
timing seems to coincide with something else happening

[rastuscat]

I'm told they were doing work to re-establish that camera bout a week ago.
timing seems to coincide with something else happening

Went over there at the weekend, my GPS has an audio warning telling me there's a fixed 50 kmh speed camera at the top of the hill. The limit is 80.

Have to update the GPS, me thinks. Might even turn audio warnings off, don't really need them.

[pritch]

Wow, that's a can of worms.

There's a process established in 1992 that provides for a statutory declaration by the vehicle owner to transfer the ticket into your name.

That's how it was done where I worked.

The police focus on speed is interesting. British police rate speed the seventh highest cause of accidents. I can't remember all six that preceded it, it's a decade since I read that. There is a strong impression that the people in charge in our police force lack the training and knowledge required to make effective policy.

I'm reasonably sure that there will be people in the force with the training, probably ex the UK, but apparently nobody is asking them.

In case that sounds weird, some may recall a minor scandal when it was revealed that the head of the "special tactics group" (or whatever it's called) claimed to have served in the SAS. It transpired that he had not served in the SAS at all. A wannabe. Personally I know of two police members who had actually seen action with the SAS, one of whom was still with the police at that time. Of course, he was not a member of the unit.

[rastuscat]

That's how it was done where I worked.

The police focus on speed is interesting. British police rate speed the seventh highest cause of accidents. I can't remember all six that preceded it, it's a decade since I read that. There is a strong impression that the people in charge in our police force lack the training and knowledge required to make effective policy.

I'm reasonably sure that there will be people in the force with the training, probably ex the UK, but apparently nobody is asking them.

In case that sounds weird, some may recall a minor scandal when it was revealed that the head of the "special tactics group" (or whatever it's called) claimed to have served in the SAS. It transpired that he had not served in the SAS at all. A wannabe. Personally I know of two police members who had actually seen action with the SAS, one of whom was still with the police at that time. Of course, he was not a member of the unit.

There's road safety, and there's road policing. Not the same.

[Scuba_Steve]

Went over there at the weekend, my GPS has an audio warning telling me there's a fixed 50 kmh speed camera at the top of the hill. The limit is 80.

Have to update the GPS, me thinks. Might even turn audio warnings off, don't really need them.

Na might as well leave it, that hill will be 50km/h soon enough.

[pete376403]

I'm surprised.

Still, 53 is higher than the speed limit, and we can't say we weren't warned.

I'd be keen to see that ticket. I had a guy claim that he got one for 51 a few years ago. I told him I'd pay it if he produced it. He never did, I call BS.

All the tickets are on file. My speed was 55, not 53, so, mea culpa, I was clearly endangering life and limb and deserve everything I got, and probably more as well.

(goes off to watch youtubes of UK Gatsos getting a Soweto necklace)

[Berries]

British police rate speed the seventh highest cause of accidents. I can't remember all six that preceded it, it's a decade since I read that. There is a strong impression that the people in charge in our police force lack the training and knowledge required to make effective policy.

You can find anything if you look -common-causes-for-road-accidents-in-britain

Based on that list we should be hanging pedestrians from speed cameras.

[rastuscat]

All the tickets are on file. My speed was 55, not 53, so, mea culpa, I was clearly endangering life and limb and deserve everything I got, and probably more as well.

(goes off to watch youtubes of UK Gatsos getting a Soweto necklace)

I'll go back to my first position.

I'd be surprised if cameras write tickets for less than 4 over.

I would be interested to see the words "endangering life" on a ticket. I thought it was just for exceeding 50 kmh.

[TheDemonLord]

I'll go back to my first position.

I'd be surprised if cameras write tickets for less than 4 over.

Is that like we'd be surprised if the long-weekend lower tolerance became permanent?

[rastuscat]

Is that like we'd be surprised if the long-weekend lower tolerance became permanent?

It was always gonna happen.

It started out as just outside schools. Then long weekends. Then longer holiday periods.

It's been a softening up process, getting us used to the idea.

But it still won't matter if you don't exceed a speed limit.

And before you raise the issue, I've had the odd ticket over the years too. I just accept that it's my fault, and suck it up.

[TheDemonLord]

It was always gonna happen.

It started out as just outside schools. Then long weekends. Then longer holiday periods.

It's been a softening up process, getting us used to the idea.

But it still won't matter if you don't exceed a speed limit.

And before you raise the issue, I've had the odd ticket over the years too. I just accept that it's my fault, and suck it up.

That's kinda the point.

The police say that they are stripping away our current liberties due to *insert justification here* but this is (select from: Temporary/won't be extended further/necessary for public safety) and that it's just this one time and they promise they won't go any further...

I trust you'll be so understanding when they limit the Horsepower or CC capacity or your ability to ride a Motorbike altogether.

[rastuscat]

That's kinda the point.

The police say that they are stripping away our current liberties due to *insert justification here* but this is (select from: Temporary/won't be extended further/necessary for public safety) and that it's just this one time and they promise they won't go any further...

I trust you'll be so understanding when they limit the Horsepower or CC capacity or your ability to ride a Motorbike altogether.

Thing is, the police don't make the rules. The speed limit is the rule, and hasn't changed.

They have bugger all say in what rules get made.

[pritch]

You can find anything if you look -common-causes-for-road-accidents-in-britain

Based on that list we should be hanging pedestrians from speed cameras.

I wasn't looking, I'd read it when BIKE magazine did an article on it. Interesting that speed seems to have dropped one position to eighth now though, in the case of driving too fast for the conditions. Exceeding the speed limit is rated tenth, which is startling when you consider the attention given to it in this country.