Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Scuba_Steve]

Really cheeses me off too, when I'm driving the rozza-mobile, when people slow down to 90 in front of us because they think we might get trigger happy.

Reckon I've missed happy hour at more than one donut shop because of numpties slowing to well below the limit.

Must be a whole other world down there, up here it's the "rozza-mobile" that's doing 90 holding up all the idiots too stupid to pass it... should see the congestion it causes
Course on occasion you get the good "rozza-mobile" (usually undercover) that does 110-120 [actual] & keeps traffic flowing brilliantly, but they're rare... tho I occasionally end up following a dark blue one to work

[rastuscat]

Must be a whole other world down there, up here it's the "rozza-mobile" that's doing 90 holding up all the idiots too stupid to pass it... should see the congestion it causes
Course on occasion you get the good "rozza-mobile" (usually undercover) that does 110-120 [actual] & keeps traffic flowing brilliantly, but they're rare... tho I occasionally end up following a dark blue one to work

We Popo motorcycle types are used to riding progressively I.e. not faffing around. We do 100 true as much as we can. Not 100 indicated as we have factory speedos (not THAT sort of speedos) that are just as optimistic as everyone else's. We ride to our calibrated ones.

Interesting. We don't exceed unless it's for operational reasons (as laid down in law) for a couple of reasons. It'd be hypocritical, and it'd piss people off.

In fact, if I overtake someone on a passing lane doing 100 true I often wonder when the complaints will roll in about us exceeding the 100 on their Optimistic speedo.

Fascinating, the psychology of being accountable for your actions. Well, I think so.

Where's my stamp collection.........


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[rastuscat]

Must be a whole other world down there, up here it's the "rozza-mobile" that's doing 90 holding up all the idiots too stupid to pass it... should see the congestion it causes
Course on occasion you get the good "rozza-mobile" (usually undercover) that does 110-120 [actual] & keeps traffic flowing brilliantly, but they're rare... tho I occasionally end up following a dark blue one to work

Funny. If we do 110-120 you call us good rozzers when we would in fact be hypocritical.


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[Gremlin]

That already happens! There are an unbelieveable number of F'wits who cant stand to be behind a truck but are happy to use the entire passing lane at 99km/h to come past.
Then once past they travel at the same speed or slower...

Many a time I've been tootling along a road and come across a tanker or double trailer... Crikey you think, he's going a bit slow... I'll look to overtake.

Little while later you realise the multi-ton truck is being held up by some shitbox that's dawdling along. I zip by thinking that poor bastard is going to be stuck behind him as he can't pass...

That said, late at night I've come across trucks racing each other up passing lanes, going a couple of k quicker than the other... they didn't know I was there tho, patiently waiting

[Berg]

We Popo motorcycle types are used to riding progressively I.e. not faffing around. We do 100 true as much as we can. Not 100 indicated as we have factory speedos (not THAT sort of speedos) that are just as optimistic as everyone else's. We ride to our calibrated ones.

Interesting. We don't exceed unless it's for operational reasons (as laid down in law) for a couple of reasons. It'd be hypocritical, and it'd piss people off.

In fact, if I overtake someone on a passing lane doing 100 true I often wonder when the complaints will roll in about us exceeding the 100 on their Optimistic speedo.

Fascinating, the psychology of being accountable for your actions. Well, I think so.

Where's my stamp collection.........


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Had that. Woman I issued a red light ticket to complained about my hypocrisy as she said I had been sitting at 110kph on the Raumati Straight. Pity my vehicle has a certified speedo and my cruise control had been set at 100kph. Sorry love but complaining about my supposed actions wont get you off your ticket.

[caspernz]

And you told me you were going HOME

Sssshhhh

[Scuba_Steve]

Funny. If we do 110-120 you call us good rozzers when we would in fact be hypocritical.


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Only if you also scammed others for doing the same; I'm going to assume the popo's I've seen do it don't do the scamming...
I applaud those who allow or entice traffic to flow naturally & would only hassle the dangerous/bad drivers, I don't applaud those who simply continue the extortion racket without thought ignoring true safety issues & bad driving

[caspernz]

Only if you also scammed others for doing the same; I'm going to assume the popo's I've seen do it don't do the scamming...
I applaud those who allow or entice traffic to flow naturally & would only hassle the dangerous/bad drivers, I don't applaud those who simply continue the extortion racket without thought ignoring true safety issues & bad driving

Haha, when I lived in Welly had an occasion where I "followed" a mufti at an enthusiastic pace over the Rimutakas one day. Got to the lights past the Caltex and got the big grin and the thumbs up from the fella...so go figure

[Reckless]

Funny. If we do 110-120 you call us good rozzers when we would in fact be hypocritical.


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yeh but on a passing lane you guys have put us all in position that we are pushing the limit stressing about if the car coming the other way is a cop while trying to get past some big rig at 104k. Then the next hill we are stuck behind at 40k? Discretion has gone even more so now there is no tolerance at all. Fear of the consequences are over ruling common sense we will now have to follow the lowest or slowest road user. Now we will be Gearing up our stereos, setting our cruise control, sacrificing concentration all at the expense of road safety.

Soon an Auck to Welly trip will 10 hours or more if we go with the 80k average speed speed your boss wants to see how safe will the end of that one be?

IMHO this is crazy stuff.

[GrayWolf]

We Popo motorcycle types are used to riding progressively I.e. not faffing around. We do 100 true as much as we can. Not 100 indicated as we have factory speedos (not THAT sort of speedos) that are just as optimistic as everyone else's. We ride to our calibrated ones.

Interesting. We don't exceed unless it's for operational reasons (as laid down in law) for a couple of reasons. It'd be hypocritical, and it'd piss people off.

In fact, if I overtake someone on a passing lane doing 100 true I often wonder when the complaints will roll in about us exceeding the 100 on their Optimistic speedo.

Fascinating, the psychology of being accountable for your actions. Well, I think so.

Where's my stamp collection.........
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While I understand probably more than most here about being responsible for my actions (at work) as there is basically a 'zero tolerance' for any error's we make. (investigation and disciplinary action). I can also accept that factory speedo's may read a bit over speed actual...
But really Rastus, this policy is going to make people spend more time looking at speedo's and I will even go as far as to say drive 'LESS' safely either from boredom. (read Csiksentmihalyi's theory of flow basically to be 'fully engaged' in an activity, skill and challenge must be equal). Or from anxiety of going 1kph over the limit which your boss has said will result in a stop, and being 'distracted frequently' with over zelous speedo watching.
You I am sure will have seen the 'rigid, upright, clutching the wheel, anxious, drivers on the road, often the ones traveling at way below 100kph, they will be even worse with this added 'stress' in their minds.
I am sure that the Popo on the ground may have their own ideas, but, if we take the example of the 'ginga bike cop' in Wellington with his 'crusade'.... You can see where this will go with other similar minded individuals?
Societyin general 'relies' on tolerance to function.... non tolerance has always been the domain of Dictatorial states. This is the legacy that is going to be formed in the public mind.

[Mo NZ]

I may be wrong but I have heard the radar units have a +/- accuracy of 3 kph So it follows that you may get a ticket claiming you are doing 105 kph when in fact you are actually doing 99kph, which is no offence. I think that why the 10k tolerance was introduced to avoid this type of debate should you defend the ticket and say well I may have been going 99kph. Worth defending I recon. If the judge dismisses the charge don't forget to politely ask I you can be heard on costs $$. For ex I you get the ticket in Ch Ch and you live in p-North it cost you time off work , ferry tickets, accommodation etc to come there and quite rightfully defend the matter.

[awayatc]

people slow down to 90 in front of us because they think we might get trigger happy.

Let me wonder why......?
something to do with the fact that the majority of you lot ARE fuckin trigger happy...?


I have been in a few wars and war zones.......
but have never been more targeted then on NZ roads in the last few years......

public enemy number one.....?

[Berries]

I may be wrong but I have heard the radar units have a +/- accuracy of 3 kph So it follows that you may get a ticket claiming you are doing 105 kph when in fact you are actually doing 99kph, which is no offence. I think that why the 10k tolerance was introduced to avoid this type of debate should you defend the ticket and say well I may have been going 99kph. Worth defending I recon. If the judge dismisses the charge don't forget to politely ask I you can be heard on costs $$. For ex I you get the ticket in Ch Ch and you live in p-North it cost you time off work , ferry tickets, accommodation etc to come there and quite rightfully defend the matter.

Your maths is not quite right. If the ticket says 105 and there is a +/- 3km/h accuracy then the true speed would be between 102 and 108km/h, so over the limit. If the ticket was for 103 then you could have been doing 100 and not over. Unless the equipment and more importantly the operators are 100% accurate then this zero tolerance thing was never going to fly, 104km/h is the lowest enforceable open road speed if there is a +/- 3km/h accuracy with the gear.

[R650R]

We Popo motorcycle types are used to riding progressively I.e. not faffing around. We do 100 true as much as we can. Not 100 indicated as we have factory speedos (not THAT sort of speedos) that are just as optimistic as everyone else's. We ride to our calibrated ones.

Different story for your cage driving colleagues. When on mobile speed patrol they seem to travel at 80k so they can effect a faster stop and u turn to chase offender. Seen this plenty. All good as mostly they pull left frequently and let the traffic past.
But not one day on Taupo rd, followed one with three cars behind him who's just written out a ticket to a cage. Despite several chances he never pulled over and the cars behind him weren't positioning for an over take.
Dropped back and got my momentum up on the trusty Dr650 to exactly 100k did some U-boat torpedo maths on how much the cars and cop would roll off at the start of passing lane with confusion and timed it perfectly.
Nailed all four of them completely legally. I think the cagers were all so busy having popcorn at me passing the cop that he ended up stopping to let them past after the passing lane!

[R650R]

Many a time I've been tootling along a road and come across a tanker or double trailer... Crikey you think, he's going a bit slow... I'll look to overtake.

Little while later you realise the multi-ton truck is being held up by some shitbox that's dawdling along. I zip by thinking that poor bastard is going to be stuck behind him as he can't pass...

That said, late at night I've come across trucks racing each other up passing lanes, going a couple of k quicker than the other... they didn't know I was there tho, patiently waiting

They know alright, just a case of first in first served. A good tip, if one truck is dropping back coming to a passing lane he's giving himself some room to boogie up some momentum to nail the other truck.
The good ol 44tonne (or more) slingshot pass on hills that have a nice downhill before hand can be quite a spectacle for the uniniated.