Police getting tougher on speed tolerance

[Akzle]

the virtual inevitability of [crashing ]

see. Thats where i disagree.

Let darwin reign.

[R650R]

Every crash is someone else's fault. And bad driving is done by everyone else.

Doesn't change the fact that if you're going a bit slower when someone else does bad driving to you you'll be better off.

Now if you could just convince your superiors to ditch the expensive advertising agencies and the complicated proganda that is easily pulled apart; and just replace it with your statement above...

"Hi this is Rastus, internet biker dude and policeperson, just saying that if you're going a bit slower when someone else does bad driving to you you'll be better off. hmmm yeah that's about it, see you later"

I've nevr connected with any of the fancy road safety adds, its all so flash its easu to classify it as not real and ignore. Now those Russian dashcam vids, those make you wince... and think.

[jellywrestler]

So, I'm guessing you're suggesting it's better to be going faster when you hit something?

Of course, it's better not to crash at all, but given the virtual inevitability of it, is it really better to crash at higher speed?

a lot of the issues now is driver inattention due to boredom, and now paranoia about speeding leading to cluttered traffic doing silly stuff like someone trying to pass 6 cars at a time

[R650R]

a lot of the issues now is driver inattention due to boredom, and now paranoia about speeding leading to cluttered traffic doing silly stuff like someone trying to pass 6 cars at a time

Whats silly about that? if there all mucking about.... actually a recent incident for me and its one of those things that's happened before:

Your behind several vehicles, front car is hopeless and the two cars behind are not showing any inclination to overtake. You know the road so you line them up to pass one or two of them but not all three and slot into lineup.
Now halfway through the passing move the middle or front car panics and closes the gap leaving you hanging out to dry. Its either an emergency brake to go back to where you started or light it up and do the whole three...
People who do this should be treated the same as those who accelerate while being overtaken....

[kiwi cowboy]

Nah, that goes to far. I would like to see a trailer license for tandem axle or weight class trailers. I have to carry none to drive an artic why should joe consumer be allowed to tow any old rented crap without proving themselves competent? Any idiot can tow a 2x3. Lots can't reverse it. Put the garden waste on. No problem. Put furniture on without an understanding of weight distribution...



Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Now this is a good thought right there not to mention the amount of cars towing loads too heavy for the rating on the towbar and car.

[GrayWolf]

Same old thought came back to me today.

We decry the standard of driving in Noo Zeeland. Awful drivers, we say. Worst in the world.

Then we defend their right to go faster.

Darwinism in action. Let bad drivers go faster.

So how about the Gubbermint expanding the (finally) training they are offereing to Motorcyclists through ACC sponsored training days?

Oh yes hang on, wasnt it one of your current Popo leaders predecessors that said giving training (IAM for example) leads to overconfident drivers?

bloody good safety message that (if its correct)?

[GrayWolf]

Geees you wern't at the front when they were handing out smarts, eh?

from the amount of loving red rep you give me, with words like c**t in them,
I'd say he was way ahead of you in the smarts queue
you really are a 4 yr old in an adults body....

[pritch]

That this thread has run so long but has now degenerated to a squabble is surprising. No, it's not surprising that it has degenerated, at least nobody has mentioned the Nazis yet.

The only people that the reviewed tolerance will really effect are those who were planning on travelling between 100kph and 104kph. Fuck all of those on KB.

[James Deuce]

Isn't unstuck a party member?

[unstuck]

Isn't unstuck a party member?

Which party?

[Swoop]

We decry the standard of driving in Noo Zeeland. Awful drivers, we say. Worst in the world.

Then we defend their right to go faster.

Yes and no.
There have been instances where a road's speed has been taken away unnecessarily.
For example, East Coast Rd on the Nth Shore. This used to be a windy, narrow road and was posted as 80kmh.
The council came along, widened and straightened it - then put a 50kmh limit on it.


Sadly the main problem is left unattended. Road users who fail to keep left unless overtaking.

[unstuck]

Yes and no.
There have been instances where a road's speed has been taken away unnecessarily.
For example, East Coast Rd on the Nth Shore. This used to be a windy, narrow road and was posted as 80kmh.
The council came along, widened and straightened it - then put a 50kmh limit on it.


Sadly the main problem is left unattended. Road users who fail to keep left unless overtaking.

Damn that was a good road in the anglia when it was gravel.

[Scuba_Steve]

Damn that was a good road in the anglia when it was gravel.

Every road's a good road when it's gravel

[unstuck]

Every road's a good road when it's gravel

True.

[Paul in NZ]

Well I don’t know about this anymore…

I suspect most people wouldn’t have so much have an issue with the removal of a tolerance if it had not come at the tail end of a bunch of other ‘initiative’s’ where the main result is the majority suffering because of the actions of a few. 60kph speed limits around Pauatahanui Inlet because some boy racer plonkers parked their car upside down in the middle of the inlet and someone died? What about the thousands who used the road and didn’t do anything stupid?

As a motorcyclist – I have on occasion gone too fast on the Queens highway.. Its fun and the feeling of a large bike peeling away is utterly magic…. And – I’m neither dead or in prison for killing anyone else… Yet the statistics indicate that speed and the death rate are linked… But how can this be possible??? It seems inconceivable that a self confessed speeder who has ridden bikes that long could possibly have survived…

No one wants anyone to die in a road accident… It’s a horrible and expensive death… But at some point surely we have to say that if we want the freedom of having our own cars and bikes then some kind of road toll is inevitable… It’s a matter of balancing personal freedoms against the need to reduce that figure…

Already more people die every year from Influenza?

I just think we are at that point where we are pretty well over hearing about this and loosing what little fun is left in life because despite what they say it IS possible to have fun without killing anyone…