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    Funnily enough...

    I got my first ever Warning for Speeding the other night.

    I was coming back from an event, along a road I don't travel too regularly, it's an open road - so I was merrily pootling along at 100 KPH.

    Cop car passes me in the other direction, does a U-Turn - Hmmmm what's going on here then....

    Puts his lights on, so I pull over:

    "Good Evening Sir, do you know why I pulled you over?"

    Me: "Er, No? It's an open road, I was doing 100 in a 100 zone?"

    "It's actually 80 along here - where did you come from?"

    Me: "I just came from *place that's about 400-500 metres up the road from where I got stopped*, sorry, must have been on auto-pilot"

    "You must have known this is an 80K zone"

    Me: "Honestly officer, I don't come this way much, and so was just doing 100 cause I thought it was a 100 zone"

    "Well, I clocked you at 96, and you said you were doing 100 and I'm not sure if there's an 80 sign between where you pulled out and here - so you'll get a warning, there's no fine - just pay more attention"

    Me: "Thank you officer, you have a good night"

    Which to me was a perfectly reasonable interaction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    Anyone hear the ZB talkback this morning... All the bleating about speeds over the Rimutaka road.

    I had a cackle to myself remembering how we rode over that piece of road thru the 70's and 80's !

    Jeesus H Christ ! the callers would have kittens if they saw us today doin that shit.
    That road was often used as "Practice" rides by two brothers that raced for Wellington Suzuki.

    I once saw one of the race bikes parked at the summit tea rooms car park.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    That road was often used as "Practice" rides by two brothers that raced for Wellington Suzuki.

    I once saw one of the race bikes parked at the summit tea rooms car park.
    Many good hours racing up there on my GPZ1100 most weekends.
    My mate had a full Yoshi Katana, man did that make some noise in the valley. It bought people to the carpark fence to watch everytime. LOL
    Summitt tearoom car park was full of bikes most sunny weekends.

    Road toll was 628 in 1975 its 328 this year with probably double the amount of cars on the road.
    That road is 100% better than it was but its all the roads fault. Somes missing something somewhere I reckon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reckless View Post
    ... That road is 100% better than it was but its all the roads fault. Somes missing something somewhere I reckon.
    In those days ... you learned or died.

    In many cases ... that was not entirely a bad thing.



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    Quote Originally Posted by roogazza View Post
    Anyone hear the ZB talkback this morning... All the bleating about speeds over the Rimutaka road.

    I had a cackle to myself remembering how we rode over that piece of road thru the 70's and 80's !

    Jeesus H Christ ! the callers would have kittens if they saw us today doin that shit.
    Would have been due to the fluff news article saying the road was badly designed. Idiots in fake news media don’t realise it was built back in the day of us being an even smaller nation than our small nation is now. And they didn’t have to factor dummies into the design because everyone knew how to “drive”....
    Meanwhile here in the bay we continue our stream of fatal accidents on speed limit reduced highways....
    Don’t understand how cop failed to catch this bmw nutter

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    The Remutaka Hill is a well-designed and reasonably well-maintained road. If it looks like a racetrack, feels like a racetrack, smells like a racetrack...well enough said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R650R View Post
    Would have been due to the fluff news article saying the road was badly designed. Idiots in fake news media don’t realise it was built back in the day of us being an even smaller nation than our small nation is now. And they didn’t have to factor dummies into the design because everyone knew how to “drive”....
    Meanwhile here in the bay we continue our stream of fatal accidents on speed limit reduced highways....
    Don’t understand how cop failed to catch this bmw nutter

    https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/13062...ured-on-camera
    were they in the car, watching or what? it takes a bit of time to get going and match the speed the car is doing, and on a busy road it's not that easy to weave through the cars that have already gone through so not really hard to understand

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    An example where speed mattered

    Yesterday a pedestrian was killed by a car travelling on Main North Road in Woodend.

    It's a 50 kmh road, and until the vehicle speed is determined, lets speculate that it was doing 50 kmh.

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    This is an excellent example of the reason to slow traffic down, at least in places where people are likely to make a mistake. Pretty much anywhere there are people.

    Whatever the reason the pedestrian stepped out in front of the vehicle, the speed of the vehicle determined the outcome.

    Just a thread dredge I know, but relevant to my work.

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    Fair point Rastus.

    It'll be interesting to see the Xmas road toll post mortem - Just how many of those killed were due to which of the various factors such as not wearing seat belts, driving too fast for the prevailing conditions, driving under the influence of drink/drugs and so on.

    I'd like to think that most of us can see the sense in going at an appropriate speed where foot traffic is likely to be high, such as the case you've mentioned here. It's about the intelligent application of this thinking rather than a blanket 'Speed kills so just slow down' campaign which NZTA seem to keep trotting out - Which isn't working if the road toll statistics are anything to go by...

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    I agree with Rastus on the speed limitations being where the people flock. However after doing the Napier Taupo road of late, I figured the zero aspect of 'road to zero' statement was in reference to the speed we will seemingly be allowed to do in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugilite View Post
    I agree with Rastus on the speed limitations being where the people flock. However after doing the Napier Taupo road of late, I figured the zero aspect of 'road to zero' statement was in reference to the speed we will seemingly be allowed to do in the future.
    Yup, my default speed is 80kmh due to so many of my local roads being "speed adjusted".

    One road in particular has had millions of $$'s of armco and wire barriers installed as well as the speed dropped to 80kmh.

    The only impact I can see from this is dented barriers and piles for the wires being uprooted when someone hits them at warp speed.

    I would say 90% of the accidents are single vehicle shit boxes driven (stupidly) by shit boxes. Exactly what was happening before the major safety changes. Go figure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yesterday a pedestrian was killed by a car travelling on Main North Road in Woodend.

    It's a 50 kmh road, and until the vehicle speed is determined, lets speculate that it was doing 50 kmh.

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    This is an excellent example of the reason to slow traffic down, at least in places where people are likely to make a mistake. Pretty much anywhere there are people.

    Whatever the reason the pedestrian stepped out in front of the vehicle, the speed of the vehicle determined the outcome.

    Just a thread dredge I know, but relevant to my work.
    Bullshit, if he had been doing .5 kph less for his journey, regardless how far that was, they would never have "met"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yesterday a pedestrian was killed by a car travelling on Main North Road in Woodend.

    It's a 50 kmh road, and until the vehicle speed is determined, lets speculate that it was doing 50 kmh.

    This is an excellent example of the reason to slow traffic down, at least in places where people are likely to make a mistake. Pretty much anywhere there are people.

    Whatever the reason the pedestrian stepped out in front of the vehicle, the speed of the vehicle determined the outcome.

    Just a thread dredge I know, but relevant to my work.
    Car design and safety features help reduce injuries and fatalities https://www.aa.co.nz/about/safety-on...an-protection/ so what hits you can factor into things.

    If cars are safer today any increase in injuries must be because there's more people living in NZ walking in front of cars. Reducing speeds might save lives, but it also reduces people's perception of danger so more people walk in front of cars, then speed limits get reduced further and roads get pedestrianised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Yesterday a pedestrian was killed by a car travelling on Main North Road in Woodend.

    It's a 50 kmh road, and until the vehicle speed is determined, lets speculate that it was doing 50 kmh.

    This is an excellent example of the reason to slow traffic down, at least in places where people are likely to make a mistake. Pretty much anywhere there are people.

    Whatever the reason the pedestrian stepped out in front of the vehicle, the speed of the vehicle determined the outcome.

    Just a thread dredge I know, but relevant to my work.
    So we should have a blanket 30 km/h limit anywhere there are footpaths?



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    Quote Originally Posted by SaferRides View Post
    So we should have a blanket 30 km/h limit anywhere there are footpaths?



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