arrrghhahahhsh cagers...

[Gremlin]

Whoops sorry fu-ked that up, how do you put a quote in a reply??

Far right icon. you need quote tags.

[] around QUOTE=username and at end [] around /QUOTE

Or when posting a reply, hit "quote" instead of "post reply".

[esspro]

Riding is a disease that the majority of us here have caught. There is no fighting it you either do it or you don't. It doesn't let you see all the dangers so you can more readily ignore it.

If you really want to get into riding then by all means do so. Very few things are more pleasurable than submitting yourself to the disease. But if you worry about every little thing that may happen to you, you will never enjoy it as much as it should be. The decision is yours.

Nice, reminds me of a cross between a speech that Morpheus or Agent Smith would give haha! It's like Agent Smith talking about humans as a plague and yet its encouraging but open ended like a Morpheus speech. I can appreciate the good grammar and spelling as well!

Anyway, still undecided and I really am 50/50 whether or not to goto a bike... I'm definitely changing my car for fuel economy (from a benz thats doing 400kms to a 60 litre tank down to a Corolla or something)... And a bike would be good for that too but that isnt the main reason I want to get into biking... It does seem intriguing and it looks like it could be a lot of fun too... Just having second thoughts about the safety of it all... I mean I wouldn't be riding on the open road or at night or in the rain thats what ive got the "cage" for but on a sunny clear day I think it would be a pretty cool thing to do...

What are the conditions under which most bike accidents happen? Driver inexperience? Other drivers not seeing the bike? Open road or city streets?

cheers

[gamgee]

theres a few things:
Pushing to hard for conditions, although if your only going to be riding in good weather, this shouldn't be a problem
Inexperience, ie dropping down to many gears when going round a corner and causing a lockup while still cornering, thing like that, basically if you take it slow and don't push it to hard until you've been riding for a while and know the bike, you should be fine
and of course cagers, pretty self explanatory, most of them are blind

[Ixion]

Nice, reminds me of a cross between a speech that Morpheus or Agent Smith would give haha! It's like Agent Smith talking about humans as a plague and yet its encouraging but open ended like a Morpheus speech. I can appreciate the good grammar and spelling as well!

Anyway, still undecided and I really am 50/50 whether or not to goto a bike... I'm definitely changing my car for fuel economy (from a benz thats doing 400kms to a 60 litre tank down to a Corolla or something)... And a bike would be good for that too but that isnt the main reason I want to get into biking... It does seem intriguing and it looks like it could be a lot of fun too... Just having second thoughts about the safety of it all... I mean I wouldn't be riding on the open road or at night or in the rain thats what ive got the "cage" for but on a sunny clear day I think it would be a pretty cool thing to do...

What are the conditions under which most bike accidents happen? Driver inexperience? Other drivers not seeing the bike? Open road or city streets?

cheers

May I (in all seriousness and good faith) suggest a scooter.

Buying a bike that you're not going to ride on the open road, at night, or in the rain, is really rather pointless.

Not to mention that sooner or later, you want to go somewhere that does involve the open road, get held up and end up coming home at midnight , into the teeth of a gale , through torrential rain. It all goes with the territory. All good fun.

Bikes aren't just for "looking cool".

[Gremlin]

I mean I wouldn't be riding on the open road or at night or in the rain thats what ive got the "cage" for but on a sunny clear day I think it would be a pretty cool thing to do...

Blasphemy. How can you say that?!? Thats what you dooooo with bikes, you ride them on the open road, and in traffic to get pass all the suckers

Accidents: Only had two so far, both in the country, just couldn't seem to leave the corner behind and ran wide either exiting or in the middle. But some practice panicking in corners (to override the automatic response) has fixed that a little bit.

Fact is bikes are not as safe as a car, or as practical, but you ride bikes because you sacrifice a little practicality for the pure joy of riding. And when you have a beautiful set of corners and get it right on a sunny day, there is nothing better in all the world...

Walking around uni in a heavy jacket and accompanied by a helmet isn't easy, but its a sacrifice I will always make.

[Aaron]

...but if your number's up, it's up.

I don't know, but I'd say accidents, (serious ones at least), probably happen in good conditions, when the rider pushes things a bit far. I know that in the wet, (even just a little), I really take it carefully, watching for all sorts of things that might bugger up my vertical riding experience. Mind you, my first and only bin to date was in the wet.

Personally I think everyone should ride at night, in the rain, it makes you a better overall rider.

If you want to ride, get a bike and have a bit of a blat. You'll know soon enough whether you like it or not.

(hehe, once you've got it you'll not want to give it up )

[Gremlin]

If you want to ride, get a bike and have a bit of a blat. You'll know soon enough whether you like it or not.

(hehe, once you've got it you'll not want to give it up )

I told him that and he reckons he's a little scared of that happening...

but thats what we're here for... to get him in