Speed - what slows you down?

[BMWST?]

A topical subject at this tropical time of year.

hypothetical situation (this is after all a public forum). Imagine I had headed out this afternoon while the weather was fine. I stopped for a coffee at my destination and the weather turns. I depart back homeward upping the speed to stay ahead of the incoming poor weather.

On the way back (still in story mode) I do not exceed 140.

Back to the real world I wonder why they set the instant loss of licence at 40 over the speed limit. Given the imposed limit you’d think it would be significantly lower or even staggered – 90 in a 50 k zone is bloody fast. Why not 60 or 65 in a 50?

On the open road why not 120 or 130? If everyone is doing 100, 140 is motoring past the law abiding drivers.

Would a lower loss of licence limit of say 125 on the open road slow you down?

Should we all by Bonnevilles, Hyo-bags & cruisers and cruise?

PS – I want a Bonnie – it would be my blank canvas for all sorts of tasty modifications ….

well its obvious innit...it needs to be 40 k over otherwise we would all get wet before we got home!?!?

[AllanB]

well its obvious innit...it needs to be 40 k over otherwise we would all get wet before we got home!?!?

Exactly! ......

[jasonu]

You should come use a couple of the Lower Hutt roundabouts, they put intersections on them... Da fuck is the point of the roundabout if you're just gonna go & put fucking giveways on them!!!

Eh??? Any chance of a diagram or picture of this stupidity?

[caspernz]

Eh??? Any chance of a diagram or picture of this stupidity?

The roundabout at the motorway end of Petone Esplanade is the only one I know of, has a give way sign on the roundabout, so traffic on the roundabout has to give way to traffic approaching the roundabout. Basically to keep the traffic coming off the motorway exit ramp flowing.

Confusing for folks new to the area, mostly on account of it being unique/unusual. I suppose it's like a flyover from the $2 shop

[BlackSheepLogic]

The roundabout at the motorway end of Petone Esplanade is the only one I know of, has a give way sign on the roundabout, so traffic on the roundabout has to give way to traffic approaching the roundabout. Basically to keep the traffic coming off the motorway exit ramp flowing

I'm a little slow this morning, how does the give way sign help? During peek traffic times wouldn't that cause a log jam on the roundabout grid locking it? Perhaps a pic would help.

[Scuba_Steve]

Eh??? Any chance of a diagram or picture of this stupidity?

I prob make it sound worse than it is but it's just fucking bad road design & as caspernz says it just confuses people which in turn can make them dangerous

Anyways heres pics of some, bit blurry they came from Googley Maps
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHMW.png
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHC.png
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHBH.png

And they also like to put "guide lines" on them which I've seen more then a few people confuse for "right of way" like those lines on corners that tell you the road curves rather than goes straight ahead
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/UHCC.png

[caspernz]

I'm a little slow this morning, how does the give way sign help? During peek traffic times wouldn't that cause a log jam on the roundabout grid locking it? Perhaps a pic would help.

Try this. http://goo.gl/maps/fFBOm

Traffic entering roundabout at the 6 o'clock mark encounter a give way on the roundabout to let traffic from the 9 o'clock mark go first.

[BMWST?]

its to let the traffic from sh2 flow better

[oneofsix]

The roundabout at the motorway end of Petone Esplanade is the only one I know of, has a give way sign on the roundabout, so traffic on the roundabout has to give way to traffic approaching the roundabout. Basically to keep the traffic coming off the motorway exit ramp flowing.

Confusing for folks new to the area, mostly on account of it being unique/unusual. I suppose it's like a flyover from the $2 shop

Have they done away with the give way on the round about off the Ewan Bridge Lower Hutt? Seems to be a doumb idea someone in lower hutt came up with

its to let the traffic from sh2 flow better

There are better ways to do it rather than change the basic concept of world wide traffic flow device. Feilding and other places do it with slip roads and merges. Give ways in round abouts are dangerous. People are confused enough about round abouts, to then change how they work according to the road code just makes things worse and is totally and inexcusably dumb.

[caspernz]

Have they done away with the give way on the round about off the Ewan Bridge Lower Hutt? Seems to be a doumb idea someone in lower hutt came up with.

If it's that abomination on the western side of the Ewen Bridge you're referring to, I spent 10 years in Welly and never thought of that as a roundabout... Still as is, and very confusing for first timers too.

http://goo.gl/maps/AzLjF

We're getting off topic here I suppose...but traffic engineering like this certainly slows a few folks down

[BMWST?]

Have they done away with the give way on the round about off the Ewan Bridge Lower Hutt? Seems to be a doumb idea someone in lower hutt came up with


There are better ways to do it rather than change the basic concept of world wide traffic flow device. Feilding and other places do it with slip roads and merges. Give ways in round abouts are dangerous. People are confused enough about round abouts, to then change how they work according to the road code just makes things worse and is totally and inexcusably dumb.

Hey,i didnt design it!

[carbonhed]

its to let the traffic from sh2 flow better

I sailed through that in the car the first time I came across it. Folks who had the right of way were very accommodating Must happen all the time.

[jasonu]

I prob make it sound worse than it is but it's just fucking bad road design & as caspernz says it just confuses people which in turn can make them dangerous

Anyways heres pics of some, bit blurry they came from Googley Maps
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHMW.png
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHC.png
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/LHBH.png

And they also like to put "guide lines" on them which I've seen more then a few people confuse for "right of way" like those lines on corners that tell you the road curves rather than goes straight ahead
http://newzealandmafia.com/files/UHCC.png

Cheers for the pix.
So is it Vogel st. that has the giveway where the painted strips are? It really isn't a roundabout as such. More like a curved street with multiple entrances and exits, some of which are controlled. Was the 'roundabout' added to an existing T intersection that no one could ever exit due to the old right hand rule?

[jasonu]

Try this. http://goo.gl/maps/fFBOm

Traffic entering roundabout at the 6 o'clock mark encounter a give way on the roundabout to let traffic from the 9 o'clock mark go first.

If it's that abomination on the western side of the Ewen Bridge you're referring to, I spent 10 years in Welly and never thought of that as a roundabout... Still as is, and very confusing for first timers too.

http://goo.gl/maps/AzLjF

We're getting off topic here I suppose...but traffic engineering like this certainly slows a few folks down

...and they wonder why there are so many accidents involving foreigners...

[Ripperjon]

Reminds me of this old favourite i used to tackle on the way to work and back, back home (Wales).


It has multiple sets of traffic lights all round it which serve to turn the inside lane into a dragstrip lest you end up stuck there going round in circles.