Multi-bike registration: Submission to the government

**BlackSheepLogic** · 29th December 2014, 08:26

Originally Posted by Oakie

Probably another nail in the 'per user' argument is the case of my wife's grandmother. Yes, at age 75 she had a motorcycle licence but she'd not ridden for 50 years. It may be that of that 250,000 people you quote with bike licences, perhaps only half are active riders?

If she's not been riding and has no plan to there could be an option to renew just the car license and let the motorcycle license lapse.

**Oakie** · 29th December 2014, 08:32

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

If she's not been riding and has no plan to there could be an option to renew just the car license and let the motorcycle license lapse.

I'm sure that's already there but where there's no cost to having then extra, who is going to have them removed. My licence allows me to drive a heavy vehicle. I haven't driven anything over 3.5 tonne for 12 years but I wouldn't surrender it 'just in case'.

**BlackSheepLogic** · 29th December 2014, 08:38

Originally Posted by Oakie

My sympathies to those lucky bastards with a bike for each day of the week and I understand the argument that you can't ride them all at the same time

Have two but one is a scooter for around town use. Saves the wear and tear on the larger bike and the scooter is a much better in city traffic. I'm sure others like myself want a smaller bike for the city not because we are rich buggers.

**BlackSheepLogic** · 29th December 2014, 08:42

Originally Posted by Oakie

I'm sure that's already there but where there's no cost to having then extra, who is going to have them removed. My licence allows me to drive a heavy vehicle. I haven't driven anything over 3.5 tonne for 12 years but I wouldn't surrender it 'just in case'.

In the context of needing to pay ACC levees on the license classes you have there would be a financial incentive to serenader a license class if it's not being used.

**ellipsis** · 29th December 2014, 08:44

...my mate had to renew his licence after the ten years were up...it came back with his m/c licence removed and another class, self laying tracks taking it's place...he sent it back to be fixed and they told him, sorry, we can't do that, you will have to sit your m/c licence again...sorry, unrelated and seemingly unbelievable but true...

...he know has a learners m'c licence and also his self laying tracks class, which he has never contemplated having...

**5ive** · 29th December 2014, 09:37

Originally Posted by ellipsis

...my mate had to renew his licence after the ten years were up...it came back with his m/c licence removed and another class, self laying tracks taking it's place...he sent it back to be fixed and they told him, sorry, we can't do that, you will have to sit your m/c licence again...sorry, unrelated and seemingly unbelievable but true...

...he know has a learners m'c licence and also his self laying tracks class, which he has never contemplated having...

The incompetence isn't that far-fetched, it happens a lot.

I walked into a VTNZ to renew my drivers licence after the ten years, and they removed my class 2 and 4 because I didn't have a medical certificate with me (fair enough, and I wan't using them), funnily enough the license renewal notice that they sent out didn't reach me as they'd sent it to Westlake Girls College (I'm neither female nor a teacher, it boggles the mind where they pulled that address from). Then a year or so later when I sat my class 6 learners license they gave me my class 2 and 4 back (without a medical certificate because I couldn't be bothered at the time), "a simple click of the mouse" said the friendly lady behind the counter after being puzzled as to why I had licenses showing on the computer that were not on the physical card itself, and she was able to re-instate them herself.

Less than a week later I received a threatening letter in the mail from the NZTA demanding that I return the temporary paper license immediately (or I'd "be in big trouble mister", and the plastic one when it arrives (yes, they sent the warning letter before they sent the license

). So I did, but only after they'd given me another correct one - you can't drive without one after all

You'd think that would be the end of it...

When I went to pay for my class 6 Restricted license, I took with me a medical certificate just to put an end to the charade, this time though I went to an AA because it was the only place open on a Sunday. Took my DL1 application form up to the counter with all of the license boxes ticked, and the medical form signed by the doctor (which has it's own check box), and was told that I'd have to fill out another DL1 form and pay TWICE.

Said thanks, but no thanks and that I'd be going back to VTNZ with my paperwork and money and as if by magic they were unexpectedly then able to process the single application form because their computer had changed it's mind and said yes.

Though to be fair, in the case of the AA it was probably more of a scam than pure incompetence. Would expect nothing less from them.

Would be nice to just have one rego, but it would be very open to abuse.

**Oakie** · 29th December 2014, 10:12

Originally Posted by BlackSheepLogic

Have two but one is a scooter for around town use. Saves the wear and tear on the larger bike and the scooter is a much better in city traffic. I'm sure others like myself want a smaller bike for the city not because we are rich buggers.

Fair call. If my commute was much shorter I'd probably do the same myself although the 600 makes a pretty good commuter.

**mossy1200** · 29th December 2014, 10:27

Hope something changes.
Idd own a few older bikes and do them up to keep if it wasn't so expensive to retain them on the road.

**AllanB** · 29th December 2014, 22:20

I think the point Mossy is they (powers that be) want the older machines off the road. Update the fleet to wizz bang spazz vehicles with safety this and that.

**St_Gabriel** · 30th December 2014, 22:07

Sounds like a great idea this single rego idea, can register the missus' car (though jointly owned) in my name and just pay the rego on the higher of the vrod or commodore (or better still register them both in her name). No more need to run the bike on hold and no cost to register the car

**mossy1200** · 30th December 2014, 22:14

Originally Posted by AllanB

I think the point Mossy is they (powers that be) want the older machines off the road. Update the fleet to wizz bang spazz vehicles with safety this and that.

Idd class my café racer safer than my other bike. The mirrors have a better view behind and the horn is louder.

**gjm** · 31st December 2014, 10:08

I'd love to see something like this happen. There are many people who would very much like to own more than one, or two bikes, and be free to use them whenever they felt like it.

A good-sized tourer. A lightweight trail bike. A custom (perhaps). And more...

Paying for them as they are used would be good. For those that feel that way, laying them up in bad weather wouldn't mean sorting multiple regos-on-hold; having them available wouldn't mean multiple rego payments.

WoF is essential, of course. But rego could be paid on use, not on the fact you have a bike in the garage.

We just need a truly viable way to implement this, in a way that doesn't see the guvmint out of pocket.

**FJRider** · 31st December 2014, 15:43

Originally Posted by gjm

I'd love to see something like this happen. There are many people who would very much like to own more than one, or two bikes, and be free to use them whenever they felt like it.

Perhaps having vehicles rego on hold ... and being able to license them for a month ... or even a few days ONLINE ...

Oh wait ...