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    Quote Originally Posted by gjm View Post
    Oh, come on.

    The law says that the speed limit on a given piece of road is whatever it is. Let's use the example of a nice piece of highway, with a posted limit of 100km/h.

    This is not a negotiable number. The fact that the police have offered a tolerance of up to 10km/h is of potential benefit to the motoring public. However, it does not mean that anything over 100km/h but less than 110km/h is legal. It just means that if they see you travelling at those speeds, they may choose to let you get away with it. As I understand the law, they are still within their rights to pull you up and ticket you for travelling at any speed in excess of the speed limit.

    Of course, you can contest this. How would it go? "But your honour, I was travelling at 104km/h which is well within the tolerance the police say they operate." "Yes, I understand the defendants position, but at 104km/h you were in breach of the law [probably quote statute number whatever here] and as such you have wasted my time, police time, and your own time. Your fine is doubled and you will now pay court costs."

    Exceed the posted limit, and you could be stopped and fined. It really is that simple.

    Bloody annoying and I don't like it any more than anyone else, but simple. Live with it.

    Whether police time could be better spent doing something else, like pulling the fuckwit travelling eratically between Pokeno and Drury at 80, 85, 90, 95, 100, 105+, and back down the scale, mostly entirely in the right hand lane of SH1 but sometimes with two wheels either side of the dotted centre line and sometimes with two wheels over the right hand side solid line, while evidently fiddling with something on the passenger seat, is another matter. We passed two 'road safety' camera vans in that distance, but neither will have any interest in this.
    Its not a Law at all its a regulation. It has the same weight in law as your dog shitting on the footpath or not having a TV licence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    Its not a Law at all its a regulation. It has the same weight in law as your dog shitting on the footpath or not having a TV licence.
    I don't think anybody has a 'TV licence' anymore.

    And re the dog shit thing, whats' the cost of a ticket for one of them? And does it have a 'turd-size' related increase?

    And more importantly, do they come with demerits??
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    Oamaru was $300 just for bringing your dog to town. Whats the fine for going 120kph in a 100?

    http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/north-o...ing-under-foot

    Dog rangers, parking enforcement and now traffic enforcement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    Oamaru was $300 just for bringing your dog to town.
    Oamaru women don't like competition, huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flip View Post
    not having a TV licence.
    How the fuck do you drive a TV
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    Quote Originally Posted by bogan View Post
    How the fuck do you drive a TV
    You don't drive 'em - you CATCH 'em, duh!

    Minimum size is 24"
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    I repeat ... Police enforce LEGISLATION ... as it is written.

    They seek to prevent (reduce .. ?? ) crime and crashes, improve public safety, detect and bring offenders to account, and maintain law and order.

    Further instruction is NOT required. (nor appreciated)
    Which I agree with but it has absolutely no relevance to what I was referring to i.e. central government.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gjm View Post
    Exceed the posted limit, and you could be stopped and fined. It really is that simple.
    Anything but if you're close to said limit. There are a number of technical factors that mean that the reading taken from a car speedometer may be up to 10kph out at 100kph (this is written into the WOF requirements I believe). Simply reading a needle on a dial involves a level of inaccuracy. It is unreasonable to hold the driver accountable for this or any legitimate mechanical inaccuracy. FFS, in some countries with more brains than NZ 5kph is removed automatically from the alleged speed before any ticket is calculated for this very reason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post

    Minimum size is 24"
    If your minimum size is 24" then you're in the wrong profession...
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    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessBandit View Post
    If your minimum size is 24" then you're in the wrong profession...
    Im picking thats a showa not a grower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Which I agree with but it has absolutely no relevance to what I was referring to i.e. central government.
    Central Government Enacts legislation ... Police Enforce legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Central Government Enacts legislation ... Police Enforce legislation.
    Yet both ignore legislation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    Yet both ignore legislation.
    THAT is our right. The trick is not getting caught doing so ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    THAT is our right. The trick is not getting caught doing so ....
    it's "our right" that Govt & cops ignore legislation??? Bro, do you even read???
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Central Government Enacts legislation ... Police Enforce legislation.
    technically, yes.

    Practically, no.
    beat cops iz ignurunt crunts.

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