Police admit knocking motorcyclist off bike

[madbikeboy]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...clist-off-bike

Hmm.

[Pound]

Best thing the cop could have done, and as far as I'm concerned, the family of the biker should be grateful to the cop for saving the bikers life.

[JimO]

Best thing the cop could have done, and as far as I'm concerned, the family of the biker should be grateful to the cop for saving the bikers life.

yep, the clown was old enough to know better as well

[James Deuce]

I knew you guys would take the approach of, "It doesn't matter if we kill one innocent person so long as we catch the evil drug dealers."

That's all well and good, but unlike the good bastard cops who frequent KB, most of them identify bikes by colour. Then your estate is left with the expense of proving it wasn't you who committed the crime that engendered the overly ridiculous response of knocking someone off a motorcycle. I've been stopped and threatened with arrest for daring to ride past a cop who was looking for a speeding motorcyclist. The only thing that saved me was my zero ticket record. I was riding a Harley Davidson Dyna Glide. He was looking for what he called a sports bike. He didn't know the brand, just that is was silver like the bike I was riding.

If it becomes OK to to simply swerve in front of a motorcyclist and the "General Public" support it because the motorcyclist deserved it and was old enough to know better, then innocent motorcyclist killed by Police due to dubious pursuit practices becomes collateral biker death in war against lawless bikie gangs.

[Mo NZ]

Sounds like he did stop...finally. Then he got knocked off.

" Davie said the motorcycle came to a complete stop after coming around the corner of Collins St, and a police car knocked the motorcyclist off his bike at low speed".


I guess we will never know if he was about to gap it again .

[caseye]

Old enough to know better.
Yes.
Dumb enough to still have drugs on him when still evading police and gets knocked off his bike.
Bad karma, for him.
I went back and re read the article, based purely on how it reads, in this case I don't think there was an issue of identity, he was being chased after twice declining to stop for police, in the attempt to evade them he came to almost a complete stop and the pursuing police car knocked the bike out from under him,at low speed, acceptable practice under the circumstances in my humble opinion.
Young and impetuous police types have been known to chase different motorcycles thinking they were one and the same, usually though any police officer knocking someone off a bike or putting a pursued car around is pretty sure its the one they're after.

[p.dath]

I knew you guys would take the approach of, "It doesn't matter if we kill one innocent person so long as we catch the evil drug dealers."

No one was killed.

[Luckylegs]

I knew you guys would take the approach of, "It doesn't matter if we kill one innocent person so long as we catch the evil drug dealers."

That's all well and good, but unlike the good bastard cops who frequent KB, most of them identify bikes by colour. Then your estate is left with the expense of proving it wasn't you who committed the crime that engendered the overly ridiculous response of knocking someone off a motorcycle. I've been stopped and threatened with arrest for daring to ride past a cop who was looking for a speeding motorcyclist. The only thing that saved me was my zero ticket record. I was riding a Harley Davidson Dyna Glide. He was looking for what he called a sports bike. He didn't know the brand, just that is was silver like the bike I was riding.

If it becomes OK to to simply swerve in front of a motorcyclist and the "General Public" support it because the motorcyclist deserved it and was old enough to know better, then innocent motorcyclist killed by Police due to dubious pursuit practices becomes collateral biker death in war against lawless bikie gangs.

This is not about whether he was an evil drug dealer, it's about choosing to continue instead of stopping like a normal law abiding citizen

[Banditbandit]

This story says he was hitting speed of 118kph ... https://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/mp/260...-police-chase/

Shit - I'm not always in top gear at that speed ...

And the cops did not know he was "an evil drug dealer" .. they found drugs on him AFTER they caught him. And they found drugs - might have been one tinnie .. that does not make him an evil drug dealer ...

I'd say they tapped him to make him fall off at no speed .. rather than have him take off again ...

[Mo NZ]

No No No No.

Just read that article.
He was doing 118 and then took off.

[BlackSheepLogic]

I knew you guys would take the approach of, "It doesn't matter if we kill one innocent person so long as we catch the evil drug dealers."

That's all well and good, but unlike the good bastard cops who frequent KB, most of them identify bikes by colour. Then your estate is left with the expense of proving it wasn't you who committed the crime that engendered the overly ridiculous response of knocking someone off a motorcycle. I've been stopped and threatened with arrest for daring to ride past a cop who was looking for a speeding motorcyclist. The only thing that saved me was my zero ticket record. I was riding a Harley Davidson Dyna Glide. He was looking for what he called a sports bike. He didn't know the brand, just that is was silver like the bike I was riding.

If it becomes OK to to simply swerve in front of a motorcyclist and the "General Public" support it because the motorcyclist deserved it and was old enough to know better, then innocent motorcyclist killed by Police due to dubious pursuit practices becomes collateral biker death in war against lawless bikie gangs.

+1 This posts sums up my thoughts and concerns about this practice nicely.

It's not ok to deliberately knock someone off the bike. It can cause serious injuries and people have died after tipping a bike over while stopped. There's far worst criminals out their than bikers who don't stop. The pursuit should have ended if it became so dangerous that the only option was to knock the bike over with a police vehicle.

[BlackSheepLogic]

This story says he was hitting speed of 118kph ... Shit - I'm not always in top gear at that speed ...

Technically I don't even need to be in 2nd gear at that speed, although I do like 2nd gear much better.

[James Deuce]

No one was killed.

Sigh. You don't get any less literal with age, do you?

[haydes55]

"your speed was so dangerous and reckless that we had to force you to crash below the speed limit to tell you".

Irony, another rider who would have been safer without speed limits.

Although he deserved to be knocked off if he was trying to corner by stopping the bike and walking it around the corner :/ something tells me the police side of the story isn't 100% accurate. Or the guy was fried on drugs.

[Pound]

+1 This posts sums up my thoughts and concerns about this practice nicely.

It's not ok to deliberately knock someone off the bike. It can cause serious injuries and people have died after tipping a bike over while stopped. There's far worst criminals out their than bikers who don't stop. The pursuit should have ended if it became so dangerous that the only option was to knock the bike over with a police vehicle.

On the other side of the coin though, what if he had come off at speed and was seriously injured/killed whilst the cops were chasing him?
Surely the lesser of two evils.......