LAMS bikes, for petrol heads

[kiwi-on-wheels]

My cbr i think is running stock gearing, rpms for speed looks about right. Its great around town, very poky away from lights just got to slip the clutch and give it a bit of rev... peak torque isnt until like 10k rpm and power at 12500 or there abouts, but the scream is fantastic :-)

[mossy1200]

Honda NTV600 Revere 583
Honda NTV650 Revere 647
Honda BROS 649


Note Honda Bros 650 is a recent addition to the list.


http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-834903723.htm
You can thank me for that link later.
Contact him and tell him 2.8k buy now and own a great LAMS bike (might need tone the muffler down, maybe hes got original also).
These are 3 bikes very under rated and would be great LAMS bikes on a under 5k budget.

[awa355]

The amount you pay in registration is cc rated only from what I thought. Unless they bought in Dyno testing at WOF time they would never know if a LAMS bike had been hotted up or not.

I feel the only time you are likely to get the LAMs eligibility questioned is if a cop pulls you up. I register my bike at the local NZVT, they only check the form is filled out and take my money. Have never once asked about compliance with the rego class. A wof at the local garage, and they have never queried the LAMs status of the bike, as long as it passes all the requirements.

[gjm]

Honda NTV600 Revere 583
Honda NTV650 Revere 647
Honda BROS 649


Note Honda Bros 650 is a recent addition to the list.

Good bikes, all. I rode a Bros soon after they came out, late 80s. Sweet - light, easy to ride, plenty of go for everyday use. More than a few in the UK were converted for racing.

For a first-time rider, I'd recommend the Bros 400. On paper it may be overweight, underpowered and getting a little long in the tooth. Find a good one though, and you'll find it is torquey, doesn't need constant gear changes, is economical, reliable and really easy to ride.

[MisterD]

I feel the only time you are likely to get the LAMs eligibility questioned is if a cop pulls you up.

I still reckon that what the legislation is really there for, is to stop people turning restricted LAMS versions into full-fat bikes and that nobody really cares about pipes that add a few HP, but would still leave the bike inside LAMS hp/kg figures.

I'll report back when my SR has gone from 23hp to the giddy heights of 28..

[xenothius]

With the correct application of throttle and clutch my I4 250 (gsf) would leave hyo's with a serious case of WTF! And that was under 5k and did a great job of teaching gearing and throttle, even now I have a lams approved triumph I still wouldn't trade that time and experience.

[DamianW]

Take a LAMS 250 to Hampton Downs, Taupo or any other track. With some coaching (eg CSS) an inexperienced rider will quickly learn that the bike has more ability than the rider. Why? Because at a track a 250 will carry a shite load more corner speed than any bike (legally) on a public road in NZ

Edit: There's a lad in the national supersport racing class that can lap 1:22 at Hampton Downs on a Hyosung GT250 pre-season. Now that's quick.

[gjm]

Take a LAMS 250 to Hampton Downs, Taupo or any other track. With some coaching (eg CSS) an inexperienced rider will quickly learn that the bike has more ability than the rider. Why? Because at a track a 250 will carry a shite load more corner speed than any bike (legally) on a public road in NZ

Edit: There's a lad in the national supersport racing class that can lap 1:22 at Hampton Downs on a Hyosung GT250 pre-season. Now that's quick.

Many - most? - bikes are better than most riders. Of course, the only place to really find out how good a rider - or a bike - is, is on the track. Certainly my trips up and down SH1 don't give any opportunity for testing anything (other than the patience of any traffic police).

[DamianW]

Many - most? - bikes are better than most riders. Of course, the only place to really find out how good a rider - or a bike - is, is on the track. Certainly my trips up and down SH1 don't give any opportunity for testing anything (other than the patience of any traffic police).

^^ Too true.

All the more reason for folks to get more enjoyment from their riding by giving track days a go. There's heaps of very knowledgable & experienced people who are always keen to help riders improve.

[nzspokes]

^^ Too true.

All the more reason for folks to get more enjoyment from their riding by giving track days a go. There's heaps of very knowledgable & experienced people who are always keen to help riders improve.

Agreed, nothing like being in a turn on a thou and having a 8 year old ride round the outside of you on a Hyobag 250.

[haydes55]

Agreed, nothing like being in a turn on a thou and having a 8 year old ride round the outside of you on a Hyobag 250.

That happened to me on my first ever track day at Hampton downs on my thou. My ego made sure I ditched him on the straights and picked up my corner speed.

My KLX300 could corner faster than my thou.... But on the open road, with random gravel patches, the 300's tires would easily step way off line and take longer to regain grip, the big fat tires on the thou, along with added weight to actually get heat in them, doesn't get as badly effected by changes in grip. I feel safer cornering faster on the thou than a smaller bike, on real world roads.

[gjm]

Agreed, nothing like being in a turn on a thou and having a 8 year old ride round the outside of you on a Hyobag 250.

I did that to the rider of a ZX9R, while on my GS1000. Priceless. He left me for dead on the next straight, ran a touch wide and I was up the inside and past him, again. Probably more to do with knwing my bike (and I was ridinganother GS1000 in Earlystocks) than anything else.

The bikes available to NZ riders via LAMS can be pretty good if you spend a little time researching and learning what they can do. OK, if (like me) you have a highway 60km commute to and from work, a 250cc single or twin isn't going to light your fire for long. But if you live anywhere rural, or have a commute on smaller roads, many LAMS bikes could be a lot of fun. And most of them would ride around me on anything twisty.

[ryanstev]

I bought my 1992 CB400 Super Four for $3,200, from Experience Motorcycles.
39kw/53 HP, 190kg, just squeezes under 150kw per tonne.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So my partners brother showed up on his new bike on Sunday. He is one who rode for a few years, never got a full licence, gave it up for a while and now is getting into it again. He is on whatever the restricted licence is called now because of the whole CBF sorting it out years ago thing.

But that's not important right now.

He rolled up on a brand spanking Triumph Street Triple 660 LAMS.

What a nice bike! the only thing different in them vs the full fat version is the capacity decrease (shorter stroke?) and ECU but the chassis and running gear and accoutrements are the same.

What a nice bike! He offered me a ride but I told him I would wait till it was run in.

the other thing was it was $14k brand spankers I think he said.

Cor. since I never ride my Street Triple R faster than 101kph and never lean it more than 10 degrees either way, I'm thinking of trading up!

It also came with decent tyres.

I introduced him to the word "farkling". I dont think his wife will thank me... but their credit card provider doubtless will.

[DamianW]

So my partners brother showed up on his new bike on Sunday. He is one who rode for a few years, never got a full licence, gave it up for a while and now is getting into it again. He is on whatever the restricted licence is called now because of the whole CBF sorting it out years ago thing.

But that's not important right now.

He rolled up on a brand spanking Triumph Street Triple 660 LAMS.

What a nice bike! the only thing different in them vs the full fat version is the capacity decrease (shorter stroke?) and ECU but the chassis and running gear and accoutrements are the same.

What a nice bike! He offered me a ride but I told him I would wait till it was run in.

the other thing was it was $14k brand spankers I think he said.

Cor. since I never ride my Street Triple R faster than 101kph and never lean it more than 10 degrees either way, I'm thinking of trading up!

It also came with decent tyres.

I introduced him to the word "farkling". I dont think his wife will thank me... but their credit card provider doubtless will.

The Striple 660 is selling very well in the dealers by all accounts and at around $2k cheaper than the LAMS Ducati 659 it's relatively well priced too. Haven't ridden a 660 but it's likely to be a hoot to ride if the 675 version of the Striple is anything to go by.