Question about 1 July rego changes

[Banditbandit]

Hey bandit
How did it look as you understand it are the counter staff just confused as to the bike vs car thing or did they seem knowledgeable that we are going to get a reduction??

Yeah - they did. Said they'd had letters about it and all ... adn they seem to think that it would be around $120 a year reduction ...

I'm not sure what will happen ... if it doesn't go down I haven't lost anything .. if it does go down I've saved money ..

[Haggis2]

Yeah - they did. Said they'd had letters about it and all ... adn they seem to think that it would be around $120 a year reduction ...

Taken from NZTA agent portal....

Are levies being reduced for all vehicles? Will motorcycle levies be reduced as well?
ACC levies will not be reduced for motorcycles or mopeds in 2015. This is because motorcycle-related injuries continue to generate disproportionately high costs for ACC and motorcycle levies are already heavily subsidised by owners of other types of vehicles.

[haydes55]

Jesus what a lot of cunting around. From afar it looks like part of the huge rego costs you lot have to pay is for the horribly complicated and confusing system that controls it.

In reality it's simple as shit, hand over $$$ get a sticker.

It's complicated when cheap asses (me) try figure out a way to afford to eat for a couple weeks when rego is due.

[Mr Revhead]

Yes, as long as you follow the rules.
- You can only put a vehicle rego on hold when rego expires.

No, you must put it on hold BEFORE it expires. You cannot put a vehicle on hold after the expiry date. If it has already expired, then you need to pay rego fees up to the day you are putting it on hold, before they will allow a hold.
Note expired, is not lapsed.

[R650R]

Or put her on hold and continue my stance of not stopping for police,

So have you ever actually been signalled to stop by the police??? bike chases are pretty rare these days...

[Racing Dave]

No, you must put it on hold BEFORE it expires. You cannot put a vehicle on hold after the expiry date. If it has already expired, then you need to pay rego fees up to the day you are putting it on hold, before they will allow a hold.
Note expired, is not lapsed.

Wrong again.

Explanation first. I have a mate in Oz who stores his bike here (NZ) and buys a few days rego when he visits. His NZ license has expired, so he (legally) rides on his Australian one. He was here two weeks ago, and when he left he tried to use the 'on-line putting rego on hold' part of NZTA's website, to no avail. Thus, the rego expired without being put on hold.

Solution. I phoned NZTA on his behalf and, it has to be said, the chap I spoke to was very helpful, and explained that although the owner of the bike had an expired NZ license and couldn't put the rego on hold, I could. Indeed, anyone with a licence can put anyone's rego on hold - no permission needed.

Thus, with the rego expired for a few days I applied for 12 months on-hold, and that started from the day I applied, being several days after the rego expired. The 'missing' days in between appear to have vanished without a trace - and certainly without a fee or back-dating.

The system is not complicated - it's just that many people rely on their information from those who don't know, and make out that they do, or guess. It's very straight forward. Contact the NZTA for facts - contact Kiwi Biker for made up answers. (Except from me - this is correct!)

[Mr Revhead]

You managed to fall into a gap then, maybe because it was only a few days, or the guy you spoke to just did it and bypassed something. I have had lapsed rego reinstated after pleading my case on the phone to some one high enough up the chain.

You got lucky. Leave a month then try.

[Reckless]

My Z1R is on hold and i've had it both ways had to pay the gap and been given grace.
Also once where I left it to long and called up on the phone pleaded my case and said the bike is under refurb and they have let me off the rego gap.
I think it was about 4 months???
Seems to be some discretion in the system if your nice and reasonable.

[more_fasterer]

Leave a month then try.

It should still work, based on my experience: I'd forgotten to put my old VFR400's rego on hold until 3 weeks after it had expired, when I went online & put it on hold for 3 months it backdated the 3 months hold from the date the rego expiry.

Have you had a different experience?

[Mr Revhead]

Yes you can often get away with a lot more if you deal direct with the NZTA and get the right person. But I would not rely on it! Or try it at VTNZ

[Mr Revhead]

It should still work, based on my experience: I'd forgotten to put my old VFR400's rego on hold until 3 weeks after it had expired, when I went online & put it on hold for 3 months it backdated the 3 months hold from the date the rego expiry.

Have you had a different experience?

Yes, go to put it on hold and it pops up with a fee to pay to bring the rego up to date before going on hold.

[jasonu]

. Indeed, anyone with a licence can put anyone's rego on hold - no permission needed.

If that is true it is really fucking stupid. It sounds stupid enough that it shouldn't be true. What is the point of it if it is true? What is to stop me, a NZ drivers license holder from randomly getting plate and vin numbers from parked vehicles and having their rego put on hold just for fun?

[roogazza]

My Z1R is on hold and i've had it both ways had to pay the gap and been given grace.
Also once where I left it to long and called up on the phone pleaded my case and said the bike is under refurb and they have let me off the rego gap.
I think it was about 4 months???
Seems to be some discretion in the system if your nice and reasonable.

Yes Reckless,I pleaded my case when I got a bill for $500 because I hadn't extended the On Hold, on date. Well, I had ! I had done it on line and it had been accepted !
Guy at NZTA went away and checked and sure enough I wasn't telling porkies. He waved the bill and the penalty and put it on hold for me for a further 12 months. (his words,well I don't know what happened there ?).

[haydes55]

So have you ever actually been signalled to stop by the police??? bike chases are pretty rare these days...

I've been pulled over and the cop claimed I had done a runner on him a few weeks earlier.... Wasn't doing anything illegal when he stopped me and deny deny deny....

I've had a cop flash its lights at me a few weeks back and carried on, never saw him do a U turn.

So no, I've never done a runner.

[Racing Dave]

If that is true it is really fucking stupid. It sounds stupid enough that it shouldn't be true. What is the point of it if it is true? What is to stop me, a NZ drivers license holder from randomly getting plate and vin numbers from parked vehicles and having their rego put on hold just for fun?

I agree, it is stupid, but it's the way it is.

If you randomly put a stranger's rego on hold (and it would be funny) you do leave a trace in the system - your name and license number.

BTW, you don't need the VIN, just the plate number.