MAG NZ Taking Action

[swbarnett]

Except, as it has been for several years, it is a no fault system within risk groups. Motorcycles are a risk grouping, just as forestry workers are in the employers bit of ACC. As such it is a no fault scheme within risk groups.

And therein lies the problem.

Why these risk groups? Why not group on race? See what reaction that gets from the public.

I don't like this interpretation of the ACC legislation but it is in it, and Parliament specifically amended the legislation to provide for this feature in the Act.

That's what happens when we get shit-heads in parliament that don't care one iota about anything beyond political mileage. It doesn't change the fact that the only fair implementation of ACC is to have no risk groups at all.

What we need is a system of legally binding referenda. And to have EVERY change to legislation to have to go through one.

[MadDuck]

I know we have taken a hit on here and it is mostly because we do not have the resource to cover so much media.

We asked the question of the MSAC and suddenly it got too hard for them and a month later they finally respond. So there is a bucket with $10 million of "YOUR" - YES THAT IS YOUR MONEY sitting there. Are you guys really happy with that? So what we are doing may not be to your liking so give us some suggestions or just sit and take it....



http://magnz.org/

[bogan]

Good info that, just went to motonz, now reverted back to McSAC. I think the kill-counter on the home-page is a bit in poor taste. Defo govt patsies now.

[MadDuck]

I think the kill-counter on the home-page is a bit in poor taste. Defo govt patsies now.

Yes that is pretty poor taste. We are paying for that. MSAC have always been patsies for ACC. Do any Kbers want to help us fight this or is every one happy to just call MAG names and take it up the arse?

[Voltaire]

$10 000 000 over 4 years

$2 500 000 per year

divided roughly by $600

so there are 4166 motorcycles on the road?

I've got 3 of them...

[nodrog:Me]

take it up the arse?

Now we're getting somewhere.

[MadDuck]

so there are 4166 motorcycles on the road?

I've got 3 of them...

Welcome to the world of statistics.....lol. I think there is more than 4,166 on the road.

It is $10 million dollars taken off us. If that does not get you lot a little annoyed then I think I will go looking for gnomes hiding in gardens.

[MadDuck]

Now we're getting somewhere.

Only if you are paying :P

[bogan]

$10 000 000 over 4 years

$2 500 000 per year

divided roughly by $600

so there are 4166 motorcycles on the road?

I've got 3 of them...

That's the total rego cost dummy, msl is 30 per, or roughly 80,000 bikes on the road.

[Fatt Max]

I'm a fully paid up member and happy to lend my support as always.
If MAG want support from KB or any other social media based group then make yourselves known. As I keep saying, the world does not revolve around Facebook.
Ok so there are opinions and not all of them in favour of MAG, but to say you represent motorcyclists then shy away from one of the largest subscribe BIKER websites to me is a bit strange.
MD, you were there before and so was I. I have 'taken a hit' as well over my attitudes to the nature of Facebook on your MAG page, in fact one member of your group decided to get rather personal, but that's what it's all about.
MAG cannot say they are an action group then shy away from people who ask the hard questions.
You need to get your faces out of Facebook and into the real world where the fight needs to be fought.

By the way, I still await an answer to my question Re MAG making a presence at the Westpac ride in Auckland.

Keep fighting the fight, good onya 😄


Too Fat To Ride Slim

[Voltaire]

That's the total rego cost dummy, msl is 30 per, or roughly 80,000 bikes on the road.

that makes more cents.

[Murray]

$10 000 000 over 4 years

$2 500 000 per year

divided roughly by $600

so there are 4166 motorcycles on the road?

I've got 3 of them...

Edited because Bogan already said it. Have a nice day John must be time for "we are a ......." eh??

[Murray]

So their 1.6 mill spend on safety initiatives is more than covered by the interest they receive alone, on the money stolen from us already.

Should this not mean they don't have to take any more as its self funding??

[MadDuck]

MAG cannot say they are an action group then shy away from people who ask the hard questions.

What a bunch of cunts.

No one will give a shit.

NO ONE GIVES A FUCK.

Fuck these guys are a bunch of wankers.

That is as far as I read on the original post. Hard to answer a question when there is not one to answer. We have a website (which has taken a lot to build from scratch in a short space of time), google+ and twitter as well as Facebook.

I had thought by posting the letter we received back from ACC some of the original mockers may see why some of us are standing up and saying "we are not happy". I will try more to get on here and respond to questions but time constraints do not always make it practical.

There will be a couple of us there at the Westpac Ride and a lot more of us at Paeroa. Come say high and call me a wanker to my face....you will of course have to stoop to do that

[Madness]

Do any Kbers want to help us fight this or is every one happy to just call MAG names and take it up the arse?

What, by parking my bike outside a poxy cafe in Devonport for an hour while we all hold hands and sing Kum by ya wearing silly t-shirts? Fuck off you silly cunt.

It is $10 million dollars taken off us.

$120 from me. Let's keep things in perspective here.

If that does not get you lot a little annoyed then I think I will go looking for gnomes hiding in gardens.

Watch out for slugs.