MAG NZ Taking Action

[RGVforme]

Is there anyone out there from the MAG commitee who wishes to comment on what your group sees as the issues and how you as a group are working towards your goal?

Yes please.Im sure their whole point was finding different and better ways to connect with riders to get their message out there and support up.It would be a shame if they don't realize that in order to do this they may be subjected to criticism have to explain themselves and change their modus operandi to evolve also.

Or god forbid come up with a better way to fairly fund the ACC levy and suggest that to the govt instead of just
Moaning about how unfair it is alone.

Or is MAG just another blind lead my way is the only way not matter if its working or not protest group?.

[swbarnett]

"The faster you go, the sooner you get there".

Could be the opposite i.e. "The faster you go, the more fun you have so the longer the route."

[RGVforme]

They would also benefit if those at fault in crashes were all ordered off the road too. So there are otherways of keeping
revenue up besides picking on bikers. They just lack the ability to think outside the square which some on here have a problem with too.

I fail to see how they would also benefit apart from the initial one off at fault fine.The person wont need to rego or wof a car/bike if they cant use it for the next year or however long due to suspension.
Something you have to work quite hard at getting with the present system.

The same reason they don't lock you up the first time for driving drunk perhaps even though doing so increases your risk of being at fault in a crash quite a bit in the eyes of the law and common sense.Not to mention the whole dying or hurting yourself or others minor point they always bleet on about.Lol

Far more money in fines to be made from the stupid by letting them go again and again while the smart learn the first time.

[Ocean1]

No "they" wouldn't.

They'd retrospectively make levy non-payment a criminal offence with substantial jail time as a penalty. After sitting in urgency and only gathering the minimum for a quorum.

Because after all, people who don't pay their bills in NZ are drug users. The PM said so.

Don't sound very likely.

Let's face it, risk of having to patch them up is only the No2 reason bikers are so substantially pinged. The main reason is the risk of having to pay their wages, and that they're a bunch of high earners.

Rich pricks. Always a politically safe target.

[Moi]

... main reason is the risk of having to pay their wages, and that they're a bunch of high earners.

Rich pricks...

Are you sure?

The way some are moaning about what it costs to have a tyre fitted I do wonder...

[Big Dog]

Are you sure?

The way some are moaning about what it costs to have a tyre fitted I do wonder...

The key to getting rich seems to be having shorter arms than you are able to make your pockets deep.

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[RGVforme]

What you have to remember is there is new people and vehicles being licensed/registered everyday. So its not like ACC will miss the money with someone being ordered off the road for being at fault. Safer roads may result too with a greater incentive to drive/ride cautiously resulting in a lower number of claims.

New vehicle rego numbers Vs fines issued for driving infringements over a year and the money that results in.

Me thinks there may be quite a difference between these two figures.

[Moi]

The key to getting rich seems to be having shorter arms than you are able to make your pockets deep.

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Some know the "cost of everything and the value of nothing"...

[bogan]

They would also benefit if those at fault in crashes were all ordered off the road too. So there are otherways of keeping
revenue up besides picking on bikers. They just lack the ability to think outside the square which some on here have a problem with too.

Why, is there a strong correlation between having one at fault accident, and having many? (apart from the odd bit of anecdotal evidence like yourself).

I know this may come as an absurd concept to you, but learning from one's mistake is a thing; so the correlation could well be to the opposite...

[Fatt Max]

Great to see some debate on this subject. Not so great that the MAG commitee have not contributed either in a point of view or a summary of what action they are proposing to take
I assume they are too busy blowing smoke up each other's arses on Facebook where all the happy people live
Oooohhhhh, sounds like cyber bullying doesn't it? On Facebook it does but KB is where you can at least express an opinion, good bad or abusive
Come on MAG, grow some balls and jump in to this debate, let those you profess to represent hear what you are doing

[bogan]

What you dont seem to get is not all motorcycle accidents are caused as a result of the motorcyclists own fault. The learning experience for many involves buying a car. So you
want all motorcyclists who come off for any reason to not be allowed to ride again?

Completely wrong 0/10. Please re-read and try again. This time things like answering direct questions should help.

[Fatt Max]

Maybe they dont want to comment on here due to a lot of posters prefering the current fee to any change eg those at fault being the ones who end up paying more instead.

Oh that's right, MAG get upset if you express an opinion especially if it contains naughty wordsis on Facebook. If you are not liking their status updates or buying coffee you are not part of the in crowd.

Surely heated argument and debate is at the core of any protest group. It was when the AAG were around. Still, we can't have the poor committee upset now can we

[Madness]

This thread is like the Christmas gift that just keeps on giving.

[RGVforme]

This thread is like the Christmas gift that just keeps on giving.

Like Christmas if you only get to come once a year might as well make it a good bastard.

Credit due right or wrong he has stuck to his point like a curry based skid mark in your undies.

[Fatt Max]

This thread is like the Christmas gift that just keeps on giving.

And you sir, are a cunt