Shorts and singlet clad motorcyclists leads cops on a police chase

[p.dath]

But he didnt crash...
so do we get some acc levies back now...?

You mostly pay for accidents that others do have, not for accidents they did not, so no, you can't have a refund for something you didn't pay for.

[swbarnett]

the natural conclusion for all those who whinge about what other riders are wearing is to get a metal cage around you and four wheels underneath you otherwise it is just BS.

Nah, they should just stay at home and prey that the next meteor misses them.

[F5 Dave]

Aha. But did he? Sounds like the answer is no.

To be honest I don't even know why his clothing gets a mention, is it relevant? We should be concerned about people crashing, not what someone is wearing who doesn't crash. There will always be someone who thinks you don't wear enough gear or the proper gear even if you think you are dressed for the occasion. I will say it again for the 548th time, the natural conclusion for all those who whinge about what other riders are wearing is to get a metal cage around you and four wheels underneath you otherwise it is just BS.

Then your logic is faulty 548 times.
Life is ultimately fatal but no point increasingly the risk of every fun thing you do.
Perhaps the law should be ATG or wear what ever you like but you're not allowed to wear a helmet. That should reduce the ACC costs for the hard of thinking people who think they won't be in a crash.

[AllanB]

To be honest I don't even know why his clothing gets a mention, is it relevant? We should be concerned about people crashing, not what someone is wearing who doesn't crash. There will always be someone who thinks you don't wear enough gear or the proper gear even if you think you are dressed for the occasion. I will say it again for the 548th time, the natural conclusion for all those who whinge about what other riders are wearing is to get a metal cage around you and four wheels underneath you otherwise it is just BS.

It is important when ACC still pays for idiots. And while myself and thousands of others pay the ACC rego tax and spend a lot of money on decent riding gear.


Wank Wank free choice be fucked. If I walked up to a free choice no glove or shorts wearing rider at the stop lights - pulled out a cheese grater and ran it over his/her bare skin he/she would flip their lid. The result is the same if the dumb arse falls off.

[Berries]

Life is ultimately fatal but no point increasingly the risk of every fun thing you do.

It's all relative. You ride a bike, some would say that is increasing the risk significantly.

If I walked up to a free choice no glove or shorts wearing rider at the stop lights - pulled out a cheese grater and ran it over his/her bare skin he/she would flip their lid. The result is the same if the dumb arse falls off.

And I suppose I can whack someone around the head with a concrete club to replicate sliding helmet first in to a kerb can I?

[F5 Dave]

I also race, Drink too much and am occasionally rude to people on the internet (though not often). But I don't race speedway, drink meths or have this conversion in real life with people I don't know.

[Kickaha]

Wank Wank free choice be fucked. If I walked up to a free choice no glove or shorts wearing rider at the stop lights - pulled out a cheese grater and ran it over his/her bare skin he/she would flip their lid. The result is the same if the dumb arse falls off.

Yeah "IF" the dumbarse fall off, but you know what? anyone I know that has had a crash and claimed on ACC has had protective gear on which leads me to conclude that if you don't wear the gear you're less likely to crash and injure yourself

[AllanB]

It's all relative. You ride a bike, some would say that is increasing the risk significantly.


And I suppose I can whack someone around the head with a concrete club to replicate sliding helmet first in to a kerb can I?

Don't be silly - they have taken the precaution of wearing a approved helmet - the maker has already simulated aforementioned whack and designed it to reduce the impact.

However, if you see someone not wearing their helmet buy all means crack out the club to teach them a lesson.

I've no issue with contributing to ACC to cover medical costs for injuries derived in a accident if the person was wearing safety gear. Resent it if they were not.

Seatbelts can crack ribs, air-bags break noses, but not wearing one can break your face and body and rip open your genitals on the way through the windscreen not to mention the impact once your body has stopped flying.

Yes, personal choice, but imagine no ACC but full user pays - would people slip on a set of gloves then?

[AllanB]

Yeah "IF" the dumbarse fall off, but you know what? anyone I know that has had a crash and claimed on ACC has had protective gear on which leads me to conclude that if you don't wear the gear you're less likely to crash and injure yourself

Oddly enough I've seen similar. Do you think maybe the protective motorcycle gear gives us the illusion of safety and we ride more recklessly or quicker? I'd certainly doodle around if only wearing a T-shirt and not a leather jacket.

Do people with open face helmets ride slower? I've often hada bug hit my full face lid and thought 'shit I am glad I was not wearing a open face one'.

No simple answer really, but riding gear is a bone I like to pick in regards to a activity I love.

I could be the 'Katman' of riding gear on KB.

Funny thing I have noticed is Kman got loads of stick early on about his thoughts - now when he remarks I notice there is a higher percentage of replies agreeing with him ......

[Berries]

Yes, personal choice, but imagine no ACC but full user pays - would people slip on a set of gloves then?

I imagine that the same people who care so little about their hands to not wear gloves now are unlikely to change their attitude if there were no ACC.

[AllanB]

I imagine that the same people who care so little about their hands to not wear gloves now are unlikely to change their attitude if there were no ACC.

Sadly I agree. Like those people with expired warrants on their cars driving around on bald tyres showing the steel belts ......... probably make pretty sparks at night though.

[swbarnett]

Life is ultimately fatal but no point increasingly the risk of every fun thing you do.

And there's even less point taking all the fun out of it and relegating all our decisions to a bunch of safety zealots.

[Maha]

And there's even less point taking all the fun out of it and relegating all our decisions to a bunch of safety zealots.

Bravo! shall make our next ride 'Singlet's Only' you can wear a singlet safely while riding a bike

[swbarnett]

Wank Wank free choice be fucked.

Who gave you permission to breathe? You've obviously surrendered the right to make that "free choice" yourself.

[swbarnett]

I've no issue with contributing to ACC to cover medical costs for injuries derived in a accident if the person was wearing safety gear. Resent it if they were not.

Keep on talking like this and it WILL become:

I've no issue with contributing to ACC to cover medical costs for injuries derived in a accident if the person was not riding a motorcycle. Resent it if they were.

Be VERY careful what you wish for.