Shorts and singlet clad motorcyclists leads cops on a police chase

[swbarnett]

Don't be silly - they have taken the precaution of wearing a approved helmet - the maker has already simulated aforementioned whack and designed it to reduce the impact.

Ah, but a helmet is NOT the best piece of equipment to reduce the impact. A car does a far better job. Where do you stop?

When I ride there's one piece of safety equipment that trumps ALL others. It's the first thing I put on and I will never start a ride without it. All other safety equipment is just window dressing if this first one is on.

It's called a BRAIN.

[AllanB]

Ah, but a helmet is NOT the best piece of equipment to reduce the impact. A car does a far better job. Where do you stop?

When I ride there's one piece of safety equipment that trumps ALL others. It's the first thing I put on and I will never start a ride without it. All other safety equipment is just window dressing if this first one is on.

It's called a BRAIN.

It's relative to context of course - if discussing MOTORCYCLES lets talk about helmets to prevent head injuries, if a CAR lets discuss the merits of seat-belts. There were huge seat-belt debates when they were made compulsory.


Problem with that is though you have engaged your brain you cannot assume anyone else on the road has .......... so best dress to cover yourself for them aye?

[awayatc]

You are always so much safer in a car....
so lets ban motorbikes....
you are always so much safer in a train
lets ban cars....
you are so much safer at home
lets ban al travel alltogether...

while we are at it.....
our acc levies pay for cunts hang gliding, rock climbing, horse riding, rugby playing...
etc. etc...

but lets crucify anybody who doesn't wear whatever we decide is better for them if they fuck up....
hypocrisy anybody...?

[AllanB]

Ban trucks too - those bastards appear to be crashing into cars at an alarming rate lately.

I wonder how their ACC levies look?


Side note - some years back there was talk of ACC levies being placed on sports - as in when you played you club fees. Being a rugby obsessed country there was a suitable outcyr and it died a natural death - or diverted the public eye to some other levy they sneaked in.


Is my point not a wee bit valid though? If I stick my dick into the air conditioner fan, ACC will cover me - why are you happy paying for this?


In reference to the OP, ACC is not meant to pay out if you are hurt during an illegal activity ...... I remember this after the outcry years back when a convict in Auckland escaped over the wall and the fall broke his leg(s) - ACC paid him a nice lump sum .......

[awayatc]

Is my point not a wee bit valid though? If I stick my dick into the air conditioner fan, ACC will cover me - why are you happy paying for this?

No I am not necessarily happy paying for every fuckwith hurting himself......
But we are however doing just that.
Maybe we need a different system..
I am however uncomfortable about vilifying anybody that does not comply with our standards...
Bikers going on (and off) about singlets on bike for instance is no different from joe public going on(and off) about bikes in general.
I believe in managing your own risks, and paying your own way...
we have however a scheme called acc.....
so untill (if..) we overhaul that scheme entirely,
it does indeed pay for you to stick your dick in an airconditioning fan....
and for anybody to dress as they please, even on a bike...

[F5 Dave]

Ahh you put your brain on. You won't crash. You're invulnerable. For the rest of us who aren't so egotistical I'm not suggesting it is law what we wear. But I do wish some would not ignore the risks like ostriches.

For years and years the road toll kept going up. But it took a big leap back when compulsory seatbelts were legislated.

Societys question; Am I my brother's keeper?

No. But he needs a clip around the ear

[swbarnett]

It's relative to context of course - if discussing MOTORCYCLES lets talk about helmets to prevent head injuries,

And who are you to say that someone that uses their brain instead of gear is worse than someone that uses the gear instead of their brain.

Stop trying to think for everybody else. I will make the decision as to what I do for my body. No one else has that right. Even the law.

If it were up to me helmet and seat belt laws would be repealed.

MY BODY, MY RISK, MY RULES!






BTW: Not that it really matters but my own minimum gear is Boots, Jacket, Gloves & Helmet

[swbarnett]

If I stick my dick into the air conditioner fan, ACC will cover me - why are you happy paying for this?

Definitely. If it helps maintain a "no-fault" system that promotes the freedoms that we all hold dear.

I take you'd also be against any sort of public funding for mental illness?

In reference to the OP, ACC is not meant to pay out if you are hurt during an illegal activity ......

Bullshit - "NO FAULT".

[swbarnett]

Ahh you put your brain on. You won't crash. You're invulnerable.

Where did you get that from? All that was said was that the brain is the most important thing.

A naked rider with their head screwed on is a damn sight safer than one covered in cotton wool with their brain in neutral.

Societys question; Am I my brother's keeper?

No. But he needs a clip around the ear

If you know the rider personally then I agree. But "society" does not have this right.

[Akzle]

For years and years the road toll kept going up. But it took a big leap back when compulsory seatbelts were legislated.

and i still dont wear seatbelts and havent died once! Not once!
Never mind that it coincided with a shift from drum brakes and leaf springs, greater numbers and less lenience/more authority of/from politzei (then mot),
the weaning of the nation off acid, a drastic re
duction in silly pants, haircuts and moustaches.
No, id say seatbelts had fuckall to do with anything.

Societys question; Am I my brother's keeper?

in a society, yes.
In what gets called '(civilised) society', no. We have a stack of lawyerjews to make sure its someone elses fault.