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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/665595...cked-at-218kmh

    "It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."
    Bad taste ed.....meds wearing off?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.
    In plonkerville youre right. And since you are mayor, you would know.





    fuckin twat

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.
    At least you are consistent,
    everytime you open your mouth, you are wrong and irritating...


    Meanwhile in the real world, plenty of bikes can do 0 to 200 kph in under 10 sec.
    so going from 100 to 218 kph may take all of....6 or 7 seconds.
    Most likely on a straight stretch...
    Cops pulled him over, he stopped and lost licence.

    in the same province somebody on a bike died...
    while overcooking a corner
    last year somebody else also died in same province
    on a motorbike overcooking a different corner.

    So Obviously bad riding kills
    But speeding doesn't....

    some bikes are Ducatis,
    some Ducatis crash..
    2 Ducatis crashed in larger Taupo area in a year...
    and 1 Ducati opened up a bit near a popo.

    Yeah, that really sounds like something sinister is going on....
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I may be wrong but I think the Diavels are the only Ducatis that come in black.
    Just popped out to the garage to check, indeed you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skippa1 View Post
    Bad taste ed.....meds wearing off?
    I did think of that, mate, but the number of members lately harping on about how they should be able to ride as they please without any speed restrictions got my goat a bit.

    Whenever anyone commented that the members who feel they are the best judge of their competence may not be right, they dismissed the suggestion.

    In almost every case in recent times, it was loss of control at higher speeds behind the accident. Not just the younger, less experienced riders, but also the older ones, both experienced and returning riders. The lesson is that everyone is susceptible to loss of control and we should never overestimate our ability, no matter how long we have been riding.

    80hp is plenty enough to get you into trouble and to exceed 200km/h as was the case with my old GSX600F, and the modern 150hp+ bikes are too much for many and catch them out by surprise for the same reason as the modern cars - you don't know how fast you're going. The speedo reading is just a number and drivers/riders are not aware of the physics of the speed they are doing when it comes to a corner or an avoidance maneuver.

    Also, the thrill of riding fast all too often outweighs common sense.
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    Well if I was on the flats outside of Taupo doin 218 km/h I'dhve stopped too as where tha fuck ya going to run to out there......

    But 218 on a road I know with twisties & bolt holes......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kickaha View Post
    They were probably tourists
    Or rider was swerving to avoid a tourist. Honestly these bloody tourists lately are becoming a bigger menace on our roads than motorbikes.

    218 kph..how come the universe didn't implode according to the marketing hype spat out by TPTB?
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    Most of the dodgyness I see out on the roads nowadays is dodgy manoeuvres by impatient people wanting to pass.
    The best thing the Govt. could do I reckon is to put more pullover places on roads where slower traffic can pull over to allow vehicles to pass which would be great in terrain where the cost & practicality of passing lanes are mitigating factors.
    I often see well meaning souls pull over onto the side of a road when they can in pretty dodgy spots, but this often leads to vehicles following them being forced to pass in dodgy spots....

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    They were both right handed too. How many right handed drivers/riders die on our roads each year? I think it's about time something was done about these right handed death bringers.

    Quote Originally Posted by MD View Post
    Or rider was swerving to avoid a tourist. Honestly these bloody tourists lately are becoming a bigger menace on our roads than motorbikes.

    218 kph..how come the universe didn't implode according to the marketing hype spat out by TPTB?
    Yeah man! Came to work today and someone had eaten my packet of biscuits. Pretty sure it was one of those pesky tourists.
    My knee is extra sore too which must be from the extra foreign traffic driving past disturbing more cold wind onto it, wankers.

    Quote Originally Posted by puddytat View Post
    Most of the dodgyness I see out on the roads nowadays is dodgy manoeuvres by impatient people wanting to pass.
    Why should anything have to be done about a morons impatience? I hate having to wait 2 mins for my Uncle Bens rice, can we get the govt to fund research into a faster cooking microwave for me? Pretty please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    I remember about a year ago on here a guy posted about a rider who was riding "Fast and Safe" and I replied there was no such thing and boy did I get attacked for my view. There would be many on here who would think no different to the way these riders ride because they can "Scan" for anything bad before it happens.
    You just keep applying your own conclusions and assumptions to everything you see and use the smallest possible sample to make a point and while you're at it assume that someone who died was behaving exactly the same way as the guy who was caught because that would be the nice person thing to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    http://i.stuff.co.nz/national/665595...cked-at-218kmh

    "It appears in both cases the riders overestimated their ability..."
    I haven't exercised the ignore function in a while. But then seldom have I seen such sarcastic nastiness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    the number of members lately harping on about how they should be able to ride as they please without any speed restrictions got my goat a bit.
    You do realise that it's been shown time and time again that the removal of speed limits actually leads to a reduction in carnage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Edbear View Post
    Whenever anyone commented that the members who feel they are the best judge of their competence may not be right, they dismissed the suggestion.
    No, an individual rider might not be the best judge of their own "top speed" in any given circumstance. But then again they might be. Who are we to say? The cops sure as hell can't tell at the side of the road.

    The real point here is "My body, my decision". And the crap about peripheral harm to one's loved ones doesn't wash either. I know my wife would rather I die horribly doing what I love than live in misery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    You do realise that it's been shown time and time again that the removal of speed limits actually leads to a reduction in carnage?


    No, an individual rider might not be the best judge of their own "top speed" in any given circumstance. But then again they might be. Who are we to say? The cops sure as hell can't tell at the side of the road.

    The real point here is "My body, my decision". And the crap about peripheral harm to one's loved ones doesn't wash either. I know my wife would rather I die horribly doing what I love than live in misery.
    I would be hesitant to say that would be so in NZ. The standard of driving here is woeful at best!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akzle View Post
    lets just sumarise:

    guy travels in excess of 218km/h, and doesn't crash. is stupid enough to stop for police.

    guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions, police do nothing to stop/save/avoid crash.


    what's the fucking story supposed to be?

    talent > no talent.

    ed, you're a moron.
    Predictable reaction, Azkill.

    Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"

    Maybe when motorcyclists exceed their ability. a light should flash over their heads.

    Trouble is, it's not clear that you outridden your ability until the guano hits the fan. Not much value in a flashing light in a ditch.

    Great idea, that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    No it is not nice but nevertheless the truth to point out that someone could die by riding at high speeds, but my view follows on from the police comment in the news article and they would have a far better idea of rider behaviour on big bikes than you as they attend the crashes. You just don't want to grasp the possibility that it could happen to you because you can "Scan" eh!!
    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Predictable reaction, Azkill.

    Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"

    Maybe when motorcyclists exceed their ability. a light should flash over their heads.

    Trouble is, it's not clear that you outridden your ability until the guano hits the fan. Not much value in a flashing light in a ditch.

    Great idea, that.
    Now there you guys go, getting all logical again..
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