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    Quick question

    Please don't flame me

    If I pulled out onto the wrong side of a stretch of road that is straight and flat for 1km, I have clear visibility and as I have ridden this road in the other direction know that there are no pot holes.

    I can see that no trees or foreign objects are on the road and no cars are coming, I happen to be focused on the road and the potential for cars coming towards me, as well as the car next to me that I am passing

    Lets say I am on a GSXR 600, if I open the throttle up by the time I pass that car I could be well and truly above the speed limit before I indicate and move back into the correct side of the road

    Would you class that as unsafe? or fast and safe

    Lets take out the variables of animals running out. the car you are passing speeding up or anything like that and assume the road has a speed limit of 110km

    Does anybody see any issue with this logic? Personally I want to be on the wrong side of the road for as short a period of time as possible

    And before anybody says I should be content doing the speed limit to pass or the speed limit behind the car I am passing let me say that the car in front might be doing 100km or 90km or 80km

    What if the car in front is an older person, a tourist or say a learner driver who is unable to drive to the conditions or just looking at the scenery

    Is it not safer for a rider to be in front of the traffic? or away from someone who is driving unpredictably

    I have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

    But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?

    Sorry for the minor rant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Quick question

    Please don't flame me

    If I pulled out onto the wrong side of a stretch of road that is straight and flat for 1km, I have clear visibility and as I have ridden this road in the other direction know that there are no pot holes.

    I can see that no trees or foreign objects are on the road and no cars are coming, I happen to be focused on the road and the potential for cars coming towards me, as well as the car next to me that I am passing

    Lets say I am on a GSXR 600, if I open the throttle up by the time I pass that car I could be well and truly above the speed limit before I indicate and move back into the correct side of the road

    Would you class that as unsafe? or fast and safe

    Lets take out the variables of animals running out. the car you are passing speeding up or anything like that and assume the road has a speed limit of 110km

    Does anybody see any issue with this logic? Personally I want to be on the wrong side of the road for as short a period of time as possible

    And before anybody says I should be content doing the speed limit to pass or the speed limit behind the car I am passing let me say that the car in front might be doing 100km or 90km or 80km

    What if the car in front is an older person, a tourist or say a learner driver who is unable to drive to the conditions or just looking at the scenery

    Is it not safer for a rider to be in front of the traffic? or away from someone who is driving unpredictably

    I have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore

    But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?

    Sorry for the minor rant
    What you have not mentioned, that may catch you out at any speed, is vehicles pulling out from side roads or drive ways
    or the vehicle you are following making an unindicated right turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buggerit View Post
    What you have not mentioned, that may catch you out at any speed, is vehicles pulling out from side roads or drive ways
    or the vehicle you are following making an unindicated right turn.
    Hooking a right turn at 100kph+ kph!? Fuck you must be some kind of driver

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic. I bet those riders the news item said died thought they were just as skilled as you prior to shit happening for them. I also occasionally exceed the speed limit like you do too but unlike you know there is a greater chance of dying if shit happens.
    Not ALL ... merely SOME. Skilled and experienced riders are aware when "Shit Happening" moments/incidents can occur. At such times ... they DO slow ...


    Any rider not riding to possible results of "Shit Happening" on their rides ARE few (those few are idiots and are neither skilled or experienced) Any result of such riding actions ... are on THEIR head.


    Only idiots think otherwise ...


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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic.
    God you really are thick.

    What he said was:

    Skilled and experienced riders CAN ride fast ... and be be safer than some sanctimonious female riders traveling at (or near) the posted speed limit ....
    To spell it out for the mentally challenged - This does NOT mean that just because you are riding faster you are safer. Just that some riders are safer at 50kph over the speed limit than some others at the speed limit given the same circumstances.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    Please don't flame me
    No flame necessary. You are right. It's called the TED principle - Time Exposed to Danger. Within reason (as you say) the faster you overtake the better. Hence minimizing the TED.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So wise guy at what level has your skill level been set at and by what authority? Or maybe your skill level has only been set by yourself eh?
    My EXPERIENCE is (obviously) greater than yours ...

    Skill level is (obviously) greater than yours.

    BUT ... my own self preservation instincts ... restrict my time spent over the posted speed limit.


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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    "he was bright enough" to realize if I don't stop I will very likely die. Even car drivers die trying to outrun police did you know.
    i did know!
    but funnily enough, enough cop cars end up upside down because cops run out of talent too,
    and five buck and a bag of chips (and like, negative eight traffic infringements) says i'm a better motorist than all the cops in the district.

    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Now, how exactly is it that we should enforce "guy travels unindentified speed but obviously too fast for his ability/ the conditions"
    you shouldn't. it's not your problem. I don't know how i can be any clearer about this. so i;ll type in capitals

    IF I'M NOT FUCKING UP ANYONE ELSES DAY, TITS OR GTFO.

    GO FIND THE SHIT THAT'S GOT ROBBED OFF ME AND GIVE THE LITTLE BLACK CUNTS A FUCKING HIDING.

    or, to put it another way

    DO SOMETHING USEFUL FOR ONCE IN YOUR MISERABLE FUCKING EXISTENCE

    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    You need to put the 2 words together in a general sense and if you look at the police comments in the news item by poster 1 they confirm my opinion to be correct that there is no such thing.
    highlighted the relevant bits.

    proves you're stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    Except they don't

    Fast is entirely dependant on situation, environment and a myriad of other factors and dependant on some of those factors depends on whether fast is safe or not. Fast does not necessarily equate to unsafe. if the comment was too fast for the conditions and safe - I would agree. but its not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    As I recall ... the explosion was NOT related to SPEED. Nor was SPEED a factor or relevant in the explosion ...
    no, rather a leaking oxygen seal. damn engineers - we should fine them all! or some shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Do NOT judge ALL riders by your own woeful lack of skill, ability ... AND experience ....

    What you think is a constant source of amusement to us ... but the humour is wearing thin.
    rbjiafp
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon View Post
    But hey I am instantly going to die if I do 111km right?
    no they've moved the (arbitrary) limit cuz. 101km/h and you'll die now. true facts oi.

    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So riders who ride faster than the speed limit are more skilled than those who do by your logic. I bet those riders the news item said died thought they were just as skilled as you prior to shit happening for them. I also occasionally exceed the speed limit like you do too but unlike you know there is a greater chance of dying if shit happens.
    you don't seem to have a grasp of any kind of "logic", so please refrain from using the word.

    you have a greater chance of dying, whatever you're doing, because you're fucking stupid.

    unfortunately, you probably wont, but rather, fuck someone elses day (or dog) up.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    Hooking a right turn at 100kph+ kph!? Fuck you must be some kind of driver
    rbjiafp!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So wise guy at what level has your skill level been set at and by what authority? Or maybe your skill level has only been set by yourself eh?
    He has 10 000 more riding posts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon;1130835336I
    have no issue with speed limits being enforced however what I hate is the fact that no discretion is used anymore
    Police discretion in not one of the human rights NZ police subscribe to. Discretion is ENTIRELY up to the Police officer at the scene ... at the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cassina View Post
    So were you not aware an Apollo rocket exploded on take off then?
    Correlation is not causation.
    Plenty of people die by not going fast.
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul in NZ View Post
    Ha...Thats true but life is full horrible choices sometimes Merv. Then sometimes just plain stuff happens... and then some more stuff happens.....




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    The world will be a better place the day cassina is struck by an oncoming truck at or below the speed limit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ducatilover View Post
    Correlation is not causation.
    Plenty of people die by not going fast.
    80% in fact.

    a clear majority. kill themselves or someone else...
    below the posted speed limit


    (statistically i'm safer 'speeding')

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    List of annoyances......

    ending a sentence in a post with a ?
    ending a sentence in a post with "eh ?"
    Saying the same things again in every post, in every thread, every day....
    starting a post with "cassina"

    Even worse would be to have to endure her in real life.....
    just the thought of it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by awayatc View Post
    List of annoyances......

    ending a sentence in a post with a ?
    ending a sentence in a post with "eh ?"
    Saying the same things again in every post, in every thread, every day....
    starting a post with "cassina"
    cassina starting a thread
    cassina posting


    Even worse would be to have to endure her in real life.....
    just the thought of it....

    Missed a couple there.

    Fixed it for you.

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