Opportunity Knocks

[rastuscat]

Just a starter for ten.

I've just posted a ticket out to a bloke to blitzed up the cycle lane past me (I wasn't working at the time) a few days ago.

All processes followed, ticket posted.

I've offered him the option to do one of the ACC subsidised courses.

http://www.rideforever.co.nz/training/

If he does it within 6 weeks, I'll cancel the ticket.

Ticket costs $150 (ridiculous, but I don't set the fines), the training costs $50.

What are the odds that he'll go and do the training? Seems like a good deal to me, but less than half the folk I've offered it to actually take it up.

Are we really so can't be arsed?

[unstuck]

Are we really so can't be arsed?

Yup. Mostly.

[Urano]

i'd pay the fine price to have the choice (mostly) and to do the training.
anyone who doesn't catch it immediately is a moron...

[BMWST?]

Just a starter for ten.

I've just posted a ticket out to a bloke to blitzed up the cycle lane past me (I wasn't working at the time) a few days ago.

All processes followed, ticket posted.

I've offered him the option to do one of the ACC subsidised courses.

http://www.rideforever.co.nz/training/

If he does it within 6 weeks, I'll cancel the ticket.

Ticket costs $150 (ridiculous, but I don't set the fines), the training costs $50.

What are the odds that he'll go and do the training? Seems like a good deal to me, but less than half the folk I've offered it to actually take it up.

Are we really so can't be arsed?

Its not that.i think there are basically two kinds of motorcyclists
1)Those who take training as an option because they think they will receive some benefit from it.
2)Those who dont because they think they wont benefit from it.
I think the first group are also the ones with the correct attitude anyway so are likely to practise safe riding, atgatt etc,the other group,not so much

[nzspokes]

Just a starter for ten.

I've just posted a ticket out to a bloke to blitzed up the cycle lane past me (I wasn't working at the time) a few days ago.

All processes followed, ticket posted.

I've offered him the option to do one of the ACC subsidised courses.

http://www.rideforever.co.nz/training/

If he does it within 6 weeks, I'll cancel the ticket.

Ticket costs $150 (ridiculous, but I don't set the fines), the training costs $50.

What are the odds that he'll go and do the training? Seems like a good deal to me, but less than half the folk I've offered it to actually take it up.

Are we really so can't be arsed?

I like the idea but what if the person does not have time? Are these long courses? For some its worth $100 not to lose a days work or get in trouble at work.

[Ulsterkiwi]

Its not that.i think there are basically two kinds of motorcyclists
1)Those who take training as an option because they think they will receive some benefit from it.
2)Those who dont because they think they wont benefit from it.
I think the first group are also the ones with the correct attitude anyway so are likely to practise safe riding, atgatt etc,the other group,not so much

hard to disagree with this

I did an ACC course last weekend. Me and one other only ones on the course. Great! we got lots of attention and quality time with a good instructor.

Besides what I learned about me and my riding I made two observations....

1. The other guy was a returning rider (I am a newbie). He was doing lots of things 'wrong'. BUT he came on the course because he knew there was stuff to learn and he came with an open mind. So the mindset is more important than anything else.

2. The instructor commented it was really hard to fill a course in that region. It seems bizarre to spend thousands on a bike and gear but not spring $20 to help you stay alive and have more fun while you do that! I know a few guys who play golf, pretty good at it too. They routinely take professional lessons costing a lot more than $20. Tiger Woods has a coach they say, he must know something.....

[BMWST?]

hard to disagree with this

I did an ACC course last weekend. Me and one other only ones on the course. Great! we got lots of attention and quality time with a good instructor.

Besides what I learned about me and my riding I made two observations....

1. The other guy was a returning rider (I am a newbie). He was doing lots of things 'wrong'. BUT he came on the course because he knew there was stuff to learn and he came with an open mind. So the mindset is more important than anything else.

2. The instructor commented it was really hard to fill a course in that region. It seems bizarre to spend thousands on a bike and gear but not spring $20 to help you stay alive and have more fun while you do that! I know a few guys who play golf, pretty good at it too. They routinely take professional lessons costing a lot more than $20. Tiger Woods has a coach they say, he must know something.....

Well actually,a training course is ussually about 100 so cost could be a factor too

[Ulsterkiwi]

Well actually,a training course is ussually about 100 so cost could be a factor too

Ratuscat is talking about ACC courses, $20 for most and $50 for some. Ratuscat hasnt said if he specified which one but it seems like a positive way to police something to me. At least the guy has an option.

[BMWST?]

Ratuscat is talking about ACC courses, $20 for most and $50 for some. Ratuscat hasnt said if he specified which one but it seems like a positive way to police something to me. At least the guy has an option.

Yes,but I talking more generally than this specific case.the subsidised courses are a relatively new phenomena

[buggerit]

These courses are a good idea, I have and will continue to do them.How do you put a $ value on demerit points?that alone makes
it worthwhile

[thepom]

I would have loved to be given the choice....stupid if he does,nt take the offer....I ll be positive and say he ll take the course...

[BMWGSER]

Watch out for that silver RT unmarked patrol bike in Canterbury , Ya can't out run a postage stamp.

[rastuscat]

Watch out for that silver RT unmarked patrol bike in Canterbury , Ya can't out run a postage stamp.

Snicker.

[Big Dog]

I like the idea. Some will refuse to learn. They can pay the fine. Others will benefit from the opportunity.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[willytheekid]

Watch out for that silver RT unmarked patrol bike in Canterbury....

...its usually blocking the entrance to KB donuts, or grabbing the last of the cheesey saussie rolls out at little river