Ticket for lifting front wheel?

**unstuck** · 15th April 2015, 19:38

Any one seen the Scorpions new patch. Fuck that is some funny shit.

**onearmedbandit** · 15th April 2015, 22:18

Originally Posted by willytheekid

TELL THE RASTUSCAT WHEELIE STORY!!!....TELL THE FUCKING STORY FRASER!

(it makes me smile so hard lol

)

...best friggin wheelie story ever! (laughed my arse off when Ol rastuscat told it)

Rest of you...wait for it

(Its a dooozy!)

ps...been missing hearing from you on here mate (And why I no see your purdy bike blasting round town for ages!!)

Not much to tell ha, it was a fair cop done by an even fairer cop. I haven't been on here much (obviously) but yeah still kicking. Took the bike off the road for a few months last year doing some minor jobs I'd been putting off. And now I've gone and bought another bike, this one a little more town friendly. Have plans for this one too, parts should be here in another week or so. Still got the Lucky Strike bike, that will never be sold.

Originally Posted by rastuscat

Given the circumstances when I met OAB, that was the best quality mono I've seen. Like I said earlier, if my head honcho hadn't been there, I would have smiled, given some sage legal advice, congratulated him on his skill level, and moved on.

Still, what's done is done. Off out to find some cellphone and traffic light tickets.

It was a fair nick, and you and your colleague did a lot for good public relations, even when the boss in the car said you had to do something about me. Was a totally pleasant experience ha.

**Autech** · 30th April 2015, 10:33

Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK

G'day all,

Yesterday while out for a ride with my good mate, he accelerated away from a set of lights a little too eagerly and lifted the front wheel. We were at the front of the lights and there was no other traffic on our side of the rode so I guess you could say it was "safe", anyway Mr Policeman must have been on the opposite side of the road and hooked a u-turn and promptly pulled us/him over.

Now the question I have is is this actually illegal? That is the lifting of the front wheel, it would have been for 1 maybe 2 seconds max and not even past 45*, not like he was at 12oclock or holding it for a long period or anything. The cop threatened him with 28 day impoundment under the "Boy Racer Act"

not even sure if that is possible? He wasn't racing or losing traction or anything like that.

In the end he was given a fine for "Operated in manner likely to cause annoyance" what does that even mean? And how the hell do you subjectively test/measure that? Seems like a bs cop out (excuse the pun) because they couldn't actually ticket him for anything. The only info I can find relating to that is this:
In addition, the Traffic Regulations 1976 specify vehicle standards and prohibit a range of undesirable
driving behaviours such as driving in a manner likely to cause annoyance and creation of excessive noise.

So a 1976 law being used to dish out instant $600 fines, that's more than running a red light, texting while driving, and even doing 40kmh over the speed limit! Just seem ludicrous to me

The other question I have is is this worth contesting? Seems like one of those ones they just give out and expect you not to challenge them on and make an easy $600 off you, on the flipside could he have been let off lightly? Is there any possibility of being charged with careless or even reckless driving just for a small lift of the front wheel/wheelie?
We also noticed the officer left the time of the ticket is that something that can get him off?

I had a quick search and managed to find this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...heelie+penalty which has some good info but then tails off into which whisky is best...

haha.

Anyway any advice or insight is much appreciated

Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK

Haha should have expected these sort of replies, let me clarify a few things, the speed limit wasn't broken, excessive noise? Possibly but that's subjective and the bike has passed a wof with no questions asked of the exhaust noise levels. Also their was no attitude given, he just apologised for lifting the front wheel and was respectful and well mannered, also I was not side by side racing him, I was in the same lane just slightly back and to the right of him.

So what actually justifies "a manner likely to cause annoyance"? I'm not saying what he did was right but to hit him with that large of a fine for the minimal lift of the front wheel seems out of whack to me. Surely a warning or a fine of $200 or so with demerits would be a more reasonable option?

A guy on a big single or torquey bike can easily pop the wheel up by being a bit overzealous with the gas but if they drop it down rather than keeping it in the air surely that shows you're not trying to deliberately do it? Kinda like sustained loss of traction and how if you start to spin your wheels but back off they usually won't have a go at you for it.

It just seems like a bit of a bend over and take it situation because we're the Police and what we say is gospel don't ask any questions.

I was in a car which got this ticket once, it was a modified Mitsi Evo and my friend gave her the beans going over the Tauranga-Mt Bridge. The cop never saw him so was unable to clock his speed, he just heard the noise and spun about and pulled us up. They very much wanted to impound the car, spent a long time on the radio but ended up giving the "Driving in a manner likely to cause annoyance ticket".

Basically it is a subjective ticket giving the cops the ability to do anyone that they think drove annoyingly. I told my mate to pay the ticket as he was very lucky to keep the car.
I once was pulled up by a cop who thought I had accelerated away from the lights a bit fast on my 250. I said to the cop, its a bike, we don't have a few tonnes of metal to haul about so they generally do get away a bit better than a car unless you deliberately Nanna it. Cop seemed fine with that but to have been pulled up in the first place is a bit of a joke.