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    Quote Originally Posted by willytheekid View Post
    [SIZE=4]...DID SOMEONE SAY WHEELIES!!

    BUT!(As most know)...the popo do NOT! like wheelies anymore...

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    ?..

    I recall so many rides from KB where wheelies, ARE neither big nor clever...
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtec View Post
    Why have bitching softcocks taken over this forum. When did pulling a wheelie become idiotic? I can ride a fucking unicycle. My UZ125 scooter is one of the easiest to wheelie bikes I've ridden. If you think pulling a wheelie is dangerous you better stay in bed gramps. You're all so fucking high and mighty, live a little.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jellywrestler View Post
    some cops have these things called mufti cars, they're a little bit harder to spot than the other type......
    FFS...they are not that hard to spot. Attention to detail folks, attention to detail. You can spot a mufti cop car from a reasonable distance...certainly at least sitting at a set of lights. That's a lame arse excuse and I suggest that if you can't spot a mufti cop car...don't be someone pulling minging wheelies...'mkay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    FFS...they are not that hard to spot. Attention to detail folks, attention to detail. You can spot a mufti cop car from a reasonable distance...certainly at least sitting at a set of lights. That's a lame arse excuse and I suggest that if you can't spot a mufti cop car...don't be someone pulling minging wheelies...'mkay?
    Dead right, I don't know how many times I've read posts on KB where the poster reckons he can spot a mufti car three counties away with ease, they often make a comment like "The steel wheels always give them away" and other useful info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Dead right, I don't know how many times I've read posts on KB where the poster reckons he can spot a mufti car three counties away with ease, they often make a comment like "The steel wheels always give them away" and other useful info.
    You mean that you CAN'T see a mufti cop car from the other end of a 3 km straight...I just don't believe it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Dead right, I don't know how many times I've read posts on KB where the poster reckons he can spot a mufti car three counties away with ease, they often make a comment like "The steel wheels always give them away" and other useful info.
    Mate in BOP had a silver Subaru Legacy mufti car about ten or so years ago. He reckons it was a licence to print money & got heaps of people more than once. The green & blue VT commies were comparatively easy to pick.

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    Haha shit, I haven't posted much on this forum and I can honestly say I never expected this sort of attention/response when I started this topic, loving all the replies though, lot of different and interesting opinions.

    Let me clear a few things up.
    -Wasn't a mufti cop. Regular patrol car, yes foolish for not spotting it, but I think my mate was a bit miffed at the two slow cars in front of us who decided to gun it as the light turned red. Other side of the road was two lanes and quite a lot of traffic, cop was potentially blocked from view by the traffic in the lane alongside ours, poor situation awareness? Possibly, but I have no idea where he came from either, their was 3 of them in the car so pretty unlucky with 6 eyes on the lookout.
    -The "wheelie" would have been 45* MAX, and for ONE at the very most TWO seconds from start to finish (that includes lifting up and touching down).


    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Section 37 of the Land Transport Act is the one that deals with Careless Driving. It's based on Section 60 of the old Transport Act.

    It's very subjective, but over the years the courts have drilled it down to the question of whether the drivers actions are those of a careful and prudent driver.

    Personally, I feel that if someone does a wheelie in the clear view of a marked patrol car it's careless, as they weren't paying enough attention to their surroundings. That's just my view.

    The $600 ticket issued is inappropriate. It was never intended as a replacement for a Traffic Offence Notice for Careless Driving. Thing is, a charging document involves a shit load of paper work for the cop, so it's just easier to throw out a $600 infringement notice. Even if it's inappropriate.

    Here's the bit of law that the $600 ticket relates to.

    7.3Unsafe vehicles and loads
    (1)A driver must not operate a vehicle in a condition or manner that causes or is liable to cause—
    (a)injury to any person or animal; or
    (b)annoyance to any person; or
    (c)damage to any property; or
    (d)distraction to the driver.
    (2)A driver must not operate a vehicle that is so loaded, or has a load so unsafely secured or covered, that the vehicle or its load causes or is liable to cause—
    (a)injury to any person or animal; or
    (b)annoyance to any person; or
    (c)damage to any property; or
    (d)distraction to the driver.
    (3)A driver must not operate a vehicle that is so loaded, or has a load so unsafely secured or insufficiently covered, that the load or a portion of the load escapes or falls from the vehicle or is likely to do so.
    (4)A driver must not operate a vehicle if the vehicle or its load, or both, drag on or make moving contact with the roadway other than by means of the wheels or by means of an attachment used to prevent the accumulation of static electricity.
    (5)A driver must not use a motor vehicle to tow a trailer designed for use as a human abode while any person is carried in that trailer unless the carriage of that person is required for the purposes of a roadworthiness test of the trailer.
    Compare: SR 1976/227 rr 19(3A), 27(1)–(3)

    Now, clearly when the pollies signed that one off, it was about loading of vehicles. Not the way they were being operated.
    Just sayin
    Thanks rastuscat, I was hoping for you input, this is the core issue, the relevance of the fine issued. So if he was done for careless what would that involve exactly in terms of fine/punishment?


    http://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-e...res-for-driver

    This story is a recent example of where "likely to cause annoyance" seems more appropriate and is what I'm getting at, if two knuckleheads can sit around limiter bashing/backfiring for FORTY MINUTES and get the same fine (between the two of them) for lifting the front wheel does that not seem a touch ridiculous?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
    Apparently ... length isn't important.
    You been talkn to scumdogs missus again?


    Quote Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK View Post

    Let me clear a few things up.
    my mate.
    and get the same fine as me
    Please do...either way take popo's advice,lawyer up and get your story straight.
    Then bend over and thank the judge for the rodgering you are about to receive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtec View Post
    Why have bitching softcocks taken over this forum.
    Sad, isn't it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK View Post
    -The "wheelie" would have been 45* MAX, and for ONE at the very most TWO seconds from start to finish (that includes lifting up and touching down).
    given that wheelies are basically a product of rapid acceleration, and even for one second there's a fair distance been covered, and at max 45 degrees, all this 'accidentally done' best you convince your mate to give up riding as if he hasn't the skill and/or reactions to alter this event in less than one OR two seconds he's just as likely to take one OR two seconds to find and apply the brakes if someone pulls across him.

    Either that or tell him to man up and say it was fully intentional, and a fair cop.

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    Kinda funny reading some of the responses...

    My approach is simple, if you can't recognise the time and place to pull a wheelie, maybe just go to court and let us know how it went?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK View Post
    -The "wheelie" would have been 45* MAX, and for ONE at the very most TWO seconds from start to finish (that includes lifting up and touching down).

    Thanks rastuscat, I was hoping for you input, this is the core issue, the relevance of the fine issued. So if he was done for careless what would that involve exactly in terms of fine/punishment?

    He probably got off light.

    IF he had done for careless driving it might have resulted in a fine, court costs, day in court - and disqualification.
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    Entirely my bad y'all.

    I think I've misinterpreted the legislation. After some re-reading etc, I see there is an infringement offence separate from the loading portion.

    It's for what the Popo wrote the $600 infringement for in this case.

    I happen to disagree with the use of that infringement, but it's better than a careless driving tag.

    When I see someone do a minor wheelie I tend to be conflicted. I first think "Cool wheelie", then put my blue suit on (metaphorically, as I'm already wearing it, normally ) and take what action is appropriate.

    The worst of it for the cop is that everyone sitting in their cars who saw the wheelie, no matter how insignificant, expects the cops to do something about it. So he did.

    Donuts.

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