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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    This forum is becoming pathetic. (Or has it already reached the epitome of pathetic)? I suspect that motorcycling has been overtaken by accountant and librarian 'sensible' types. Motorcycling used to be a bastion of freedom, expression and adventure. Half of you punks make it seem as boring as watching my Corn Flakes turn soggy in the morning.

    I recall so many rides from KB where wheelies, while neither big nor clever, were a regular part of the days entertainment. I recall a certain member who cracked it open on the western motorway on his Gixxer 1000 with a mentally loud exhaust and wheelied at speed right past an unmarked cop car...who consequently pulled him over but then let him off any fine.

    I bet that half of the chumps on here now would code brown themselves at this sort of carry on. Bet they are subscribers to the WorkSafe newsletters too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    Entirely my bad y'all.

    I think I've misinterpreted the legislation. After some re-reading etc, I see there is an infringement offence separate from the loading portion.

    It's for what the Popo wrote the $600 infringement for in this case.

    I happen to disagree with the use of that infringement, but it's better than a careless driving tag.

    When I see someone do a minor wheelie I tend to be conflicted. I first think "Cool wheelie", then put my blue suit on (metaphorically, as I'm already wearing it, normally ) and take what action is appropriate.

    The worst of it for the cop is that everyone sitting in their cars who saw the wheelie, no matter how insignificant, expects the cops to do something about it. So he did.

    Donuts.
    he also said there were three orrificers in the car, is one gonna say nah fuck-it, especially when the clown says a 1-2 sec 45 degree wheelie was an accident!!!

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    Thanks again rastuscat, just out of curiosity what would you have given as the fine/offense/infringement if it were up to you?
    And regarding careless is there various degrees to it? I.e. a smaller fine along with some demerits for a lesser offense, as I mentioned at the start I would consider this far more appropriate.
    Don't get me wrong if a charge and more serious consequences go along with careless then I would say he got off fairly lightly, though I'm sure there's a lot worse things that would go under the category...

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    I think many of us are breathing a sigh of relief - there but for the grace of God go I.

    $600 bucks seems steep but as many have said, it could have been much worse- careless use, loss of licence and still $600 bucks lighter. Sometimes it's worth crawling and begging forgiveness in a nice friendly manner and if he was an 'open minded' bloke he might have let it go with a verbal telling off. Tell your friend to consider himself lucky and please don't dispute it. That'll just rile them up to come down harder on us

    If/when my turn comes I will welcome the 'annoyance infringement' with open arms knowing the alternative is haviing the book thrown at me and walking.

    I'm from that idiot generation where wheelies were viewed as a bit of fun but now 105kph is considered reckless endangerment to the survival of all life on the planet. Except driving with a phone glued to your face, that seems totally acceptable to the masses. How many people have been killed/maimed by someone else doing a wheelie versus someone else driving while on the phone? I think wheelies would come out as harmless by comparison. Sadly the world has changed for the worse but the good news is those who bought shares in cotton wool production are doing great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rastuscat View Post
    When I see someone do a minor wheelie I tend to be conflicted. I first think "Cool wheelie", then put my blue suit on (metaphorically, as I'm already wearing it, normally ) and take what action is appropriate..
    So what you're saying is that OP's 'mate' botched the landing of the wheelie, hence the ticket? i.e. if he'd done a proper one with a slight chirp of the wheel and a tiny amount of smoke during landing he'd have gotten off?

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    Cant go fast, cant do a wheelie, cant do much anymore
    At least we dont live in queensland and we can still ride around in groups

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRACKATTACK View Post
    Thanks again rastuscat, just out of curiosity what would you have given as the fine/offense/infringement if it were up to you?
    And regarding careless is there various degrees to it? I.e. a smaller fine along with some demerits for a lesser offense, as I mentioned at the start I would consider this far more appropriate.
    Don't get me wrong if a charge and more serious consequences go along with careless then I would say he got off fairly lightly, though I'm sure there's a lot worse things that would go under the category...
    I've mellowed over the years. The paperwork for Careless Driving is staggering. I suspect that if I'd witnessed the mono as described, I'd have given a good old smile and laugh, and advice not to make a habit of it.

    I'm old school though, and the new school has gotten too much of me, so I'm leaving.

    Careless carries a fine of up to $3000, and the court may disqualify. In my experience, if the rider doesn't turn up to defend them self, the fine gets worse, and the risk of the licence going gets worse too. I reckon you'd get less than the $600, but the court costs would negate any benefit.

    Simple really, learn to spot Popo cars when there's one there. Invent a time machine, wind the clock back a few minutes and don't so that shit again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doppleganger View Post
    Cant go fast, cant do a wheelie, cant do much anymore
    At least we dont live in queensland and we can still ride around in groups

    Just back from the 'beige state' (as a visiting motorbiker journalist from there referred to it as) and saw several groups of riders, some mainly H-Ds, some mixed, some riding, some parked.
    Biggest group would have had about 12 -15 riders.
    Didn't see a cop near any of the groups.

    But yeah, the beige state make NZ seem really liberal and free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    difference from then to now is..... We GREW UP.....
    See my post here

    Many of those guys were older then than I am now so........

    Yes, some of us DID grow up. I don't really miss the old hoon days THAT much. Although, I still do love a good wheelie/rolling stoppie if I am honest. The thing is, growing up doesn't give you the right to become a sanctimonious old codger trying to preach the same dull message from the pulpit each day.

    I am now in a phase of life where I simply cannot afford the effects of a serious crash. I had one last year on the motocross bike and it seriously messed up my plans for a good six months. That, more than anything effects what, where and how I ride.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    difference from then to now is..... We GREW UP.....
    I can get a medical cert that PROVES I have Peter-pan syndrome!*...I can has legal Wheelie's!?!?! ....


    ...so...fucking...happy...you guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oakie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brett View Post
    The thing is, growing up doesn't give you the right to become a sanctimonious old codger trying to preach the same dull message from the pulpit each day.
    You can't take that away from the old dudes that love to be like that man!

    It is tradition that they were more hardcore and tough in their day, yet somehow less irresponsible and had respect for authority/their elders than 'todays' pack of young louts

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