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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    I'm not the fucken stupid cunt that was speeding and got caught.

    I hate the new age supercop traffic enforcement generation, but I know the rules. I'm just not so high and mighty and definitely retarded enough to break the rules and have a sook about it when I get caught.

    "I was caught speeding" whipedy fuckin do, man up and except it, last time I heard cry me a river was somewhere in the middle east.

    cock goblins.

    p.s. I think his ticket might be less than 60mil
    And the whole fact the scam they run is illegal under NZ legislation doesn't bother you?
    Why are you so happy to pay? & Hell if you like paying for nothing you can chuck 20$/mth my way; if you like I can even tell you "it's saving lives" or we can go old skool & call it "protection money" I don't mind whatever makes you feel better about paying it, it still achieves exactly the same thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    And the whole fact the scam they run is illegal under NZ legislation doesn't bother you?
    Why are you so happy to pay? & Hell if you like paying for nothing you can chuck 20$/mth my way; if you like I can even tell you "it's saving lives" or we can go old skool & call it "protection money" I don't mind whatever makes you feel better about paying it, it still achieves exactly the same thing.
    You only pay if you get caught breaking the rules.

    if you are going broke from paying, I suspect you arent smart enough to work out why you are paying.

    And nowhere does it mention that I am happy paying, in fact id be quite upset paying all the time. But I wouldn't be fuckin stupid enough to whinge about something that is a well known consequence of breaking the rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    You only pay if you get caught breaking the rules.

    if you are going broke from paying, I suspect you arent smart enough to work out why you are paying.

    And nowhere does it mention that I am happy paying, in fact id be quite upset paying all the time. But I wouldn't be fuckin stupid enough to whinge about something that is a well known consequence of breaking the rules.
    That's bullshit, they'll even put innocent people in jail for things they did not do, so stealing some money & more so talking shit to do so is a drop in the bucket for them. I still can't get how people think just because they wear a gang patch suddenly "they must be right".
    I don't whinge about an individual ticket I complain at the system at whole. Least they can do is make cops provide some evidence of accusation, if I wanted to bring a case against you I'd be expected to bring more evidence than "i said so" thus cops should be expected to do the same like required by law
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    That's bullshit, they'll even put innocent people in jail for things they did not do, so stealing some money & more so talking shit to do so is a drop in the bucket for them. I still can't get how people think just because they wear a gang patch suddenly "they must be right".
    I don't whinge about an individual ticket I complain at the system at whole. Least they can do is make cops provide some evidence of accusation, if I wanted to bring a case against you I'd be expected to bring more evidence than "i said so" thus cops should be expected to do the same like required by law
    So those radar gun things they use are pretend? Next you'll be saying their communications network is provided by watties.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scuba_Steve View Post
    That's bullshit, they'll even put innocent people in jail for things they did not do, so stealing some money & more so talking shit to do so is a drop in the bucket for them. I still can't get how people think just because they wear a gang patch suddenly "they must be right".
    I don't whinge about an individual ticket I complain at the system at whole. Least they can do is make cops provide some evidence of accusation, if I wanted to bring a case against you I'd be expected to bring more evidence than "i said so" thus cops should be expected to do the same like required by law
    So you want all cops to wear body cameras and all cop cars to have cameras and radars front and rear? They'll become mobile speed cameras and you'll get your speeding tickets in the mail. But of course cops will still be allowed to pull you over whenever they feel like it for a "random" breath alcohol test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by f2dz View Post
    Like others have said, albeit bluntly, a policeman's word > your word.

    Unless things have changed, I believe that you're legally entitled to be able to check the reading on the radar after you get pinged but once you've driven/ridden away there's no record of it.

    You didn't mention that you weren't speeding so it comes across like you're just trying to get out of the ticket.

    I'll admit I've tried this a few times also, and it's a bitter pill to swallow, but you'll save yourself time and stress if you just pay the infringement.
    Thanks for posting something actually helpful and not calling me a cunt. Have you actually gone to court to contest a ticket?

    Are you sure there is no record of the radar readings?

    For the record I probably was going over the limit but cant be sure as my eyes tend to be focussed on whats ahead and around me not what my speedo is reading. If I was speeding then it was not excessive and was safe and appropriate for the conditions.

    For those that claim I should just accept it and pay up ill leave for you to do. If the officer claims i was doing a certain speed fine ill pay up as soon as i see some evidence confirming my crime aside from his word. Until then im innocent until proven guilty. Thats why all infringement notices say "alleged infringement".

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    Got caught speeding...... Man the fuck up and pay the fine.


    or, Got caught speeding....... Became a bkwibiker bush lawyer......... Took the rozza to court........... Pay the fine and the court costs.
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    And the alleged crime was doing 102 in a 90 zone. A perfectly straight road no traffic bright sunny afternoon. Officer claimed this was a high risk zone

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    FUCK THE POLICE

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    If you don't know what speed you were doing, you "probably" were speeding. Pay up, it'll be cheaper than being proved wrong later on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    And the alleged crime was doing 102 in a 90 zone. A perfectly straight road no traffic bright sunny afternoon. Officer claimed this was a high risk zone
    So What's your problem?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    And the alleged crime was doing 102 in a 90 zone. A perfectly straight road no traffic bright sunny afternoon. Officer claimed this was a high risk zone


    Here's an article that may interest you: http://www.fastandsafe.org/Pages/Med...ce18Feb05.shtm

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    So those radar gun things they use are pretend? Next you'll be saying their communications network is provided by watties.
    The radar guns 9/10 times they'll refuse to show you, the same ones that if they do show you provide no evidence of anything just a number on a LED display, those radars are you talking?


    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    So you want all cops to wear body cameras and all cop cars to have cameras and radars front and rear? They'll become mobile speed cameras and you'll get your speeding tickets in the mail. But of course cops will still be allowed to pull you over whenever they feel like it for a "random" breath alcohol test.
    Cameras would be a start, radars can be scrapped tho. Since LA introduced them complaints against police gang members has dropped 80%. I've even found my personal camera to help out on occasion, it's amazing how the cops story/attitude can change when you point out the camera recording everything
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jin View Post
    And the alleged crime was doing 102 in a 90 zone. A perfectly straight road no traffic bright sunny afternoon. Officer claimed this was a high risk zone
    Despite the officer's claim here, fact is, you have a fine to pay. Count yourself lucky the fine is not that bad, in all likelihood you've probably been over the speed limit on more than one/this occasion....right?

    Where was this 90 kph zone? I have never seen one before, they seem to jump from 85-100.
    I was caught doing 19 over the limit and got off, wrote in a gave a reason for the speed (which was 130 just prior) and they let me off the fine.
    The issuing officer is just the stating point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nodrog View Post
    You cunts must think you're pretty hot shit if you think you're so important that the police have conspired against you for a couple of your dollars.
    Hey look, can't comment on NZ, but there have been documented cases on this side of the pond where police were falsely accusing people of excessive speeding which is an automatic tow truck trip to the car pound for 7 days minimum. They found out the cops were getting a kick-back from the impound lots/tow truck operators.

    In Canada, you need proof of speeding, rather than an officer's best guess. Having said that I had an officer pull me over and say I was speeding when I wasn't. I saw him, way ahead and a cyclist was passing me for crying out loud (it was a park area), and he points at me and tells me to pull over. I was quite confused. Tells me I was speeding, gives me the ticket and then pulls over another car 2 seconds after handing me the ticket, again not using any speed measuring device. Damn straight I fought that ticket. He didn't show up at court. His disclosure was full of holes. He said he reduced the ticket, but he never checked off the ticket was reduced on the original ticket and never mentioned the speed on the disclosure when he pulled me over. IMO, he never took a radar reading, never did take any notes... he just made them up after I asked for disclosure, since he was just pulling over cars immediately one after another and never had any time to write anything. It was a joke.

    Anyway to the OP - find out your laws. Do they need a speed measuring device or not? In some parts of the US they don't, in Canada they do (at least the places I have been to). From there you are a big boy and you can decide if you want to fight the ticket or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maha View Post
    Where was this 90 kph zone? I have never seen one before, they seem to jump from 85-100.
    From the Coromandel/Tauranga exit 477 to almost the Ngatea turn-off is mostly 90kphr zone now.
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