LAMS approved bike with a exhaust?

[Mo NZ]

I may have been 2 weeks ago an assessor had a look at a bike ridden by a LAMS rider and the bike had been altered.

Yippee says the assessor I can deny that claim.

If they can find a reason not to pay out they will use it every time.
That's the first thing they look at.
Are we liable?? Lets have a close look for any alterations. etc.

Do your time and trade that bike when you can and buy another bike.

[mossy1200]

Clip taken from star insurance.

"What this also means: Learner and restricted riders, riding bikes on the prohibited list or modified to increase the power to weight of the bike will not be covered in the event of a claim."

[mossy1200]

Taken from state insurance.

"There’s no cover under this policy if the driver of any vehicle: 1. does not comply with all the conditions of his or her driver licence,"

[Rikard]

Okay I'm with you. The way he said it made it sound as if there was some wiggle room with slower bikes previously. Example if you put an exhaust on a cruiser 250. It's not putting out much power and it weighs a ton so flicking on an exhaust still isn't going to bring its power to weight ratio up to anything above other lams approved bikes. That was what he told me anyway.

On another note I'm looking at buying an rc390....maybe as soon as today. Ridden Kim's for ages sxf 350, sxf 250 and exc 520, thoughts on the bike? To me it all seems pretty great. I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right ?

[5ive]

If you really want to buy a bike, don't come here asking for people's "opinions". They're just going to talk you out of it. Go test ride them and make your own financial decisions.

Today's drinking game = 1 shot per time you hear the following:

-"Don't buy a new one, you'll drop/crash it"
-"Don't buy a new one, they're all crap, older bikes were better" (apparently speed beats safety,comfort, technology, handling, WEIGHT)
-"Don't buy that one, it's crap (but I've never ridden one, I just know)"
-"hoW du u manage 2 feeD urselF?" (or other poor attempts at trolling)
-"Wait (the 18/24 months) until you have your full licence before buying a decent* bike"
-"Don't buy a new bike, they're overpriced. Buy an older, high km, thrashed bike that's still overpriced instead (and costs more money to fix/maintain)"

Goodluck!


*debateable examples given of "decent"

[Rikard]

If you really want to buy a bike, don't come here asking for people's "opinions". They're just going to talk you out of it. Go test ride them and make your own financial decisions.

Today's drinking game = 1 shot per time you hear the following:

-"Don't buy a new one, you'll drop/crash it"
-"Don't buy a new one, they're all crap, older bikes were better" (apparently speed beats safety,comfort, technology, handling, WEIGHT)
-"Don't buy that one, it's crap (but I've never ridden one, I just know)"
-"hoW du u manage 2 feeD urselF?" (or other poor attempts at trolling)
-"Wait (the 18/24 months) until you have your full licence before buying a decent* bike"
-"Don't buy a new bike, they're overpriced. Buy an older, high km, thrashed bike that's still overpriced instead (and costs more money to fix/maintain)"



Goodluck!


*debateable examples given of "decent"

Without a doubt the best advise I've had yet. Thanks man

[Akzle]

Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum

he's right you know

[Big Dog]

I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right ?

: yep, Honda salesman would know.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[rastuscat]

Gremlin nailed it.

Regardless of your motivations for modifying a LAMS bike, the way people take the mickey out of the system has caused a very unambiguous set of rules to be written.

If you make a bike more powerful or lighter than it was the day it left the factory, it's non-LAMS compliant. End of.

I reckon there are only maybe 25 cops in the country who would realize that, so you have little to fear from the Popo about doing it. The problem is with the insurance issues.

It might be a silly rule, but it's been caused by the piss taking that's happened over the years.

Totally your call.

[Rikard]

: yep, Honda salesman would know.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

Read that while drinking a cup of coffee. Now there's coffee everywhere.....

[Rikard]

Gremlin nailed it.

Regardless of your motivations for modifying a LAMS bike, the way people take the mickey out of the system has caused a very unambiguous set of rules to be written.

If you make a bike more powerful or lighter than it was the day it left the factory, it's non-LAMS compliant. End of.

I reckon there are only maybe 25 cops in the country who would realize that, so you have little to fear from the Popo about doing it. The problem is with the insurance issues.

It might be a silly rule, but it's been caused by the piss taking that's happened over the years.

Totally your call.

Seems pretty fair to me. You can still get yourself into plenty of trouble on a LAMS bike .

[Luckylegs]

Okay I'm with you. The way he said it made it sound as if there was some wiggle room with slower bikes previously. Example if you put an exhaust on a cruiser 250. It's not putting out much power and it weighs a ton so flicking on an exhaust still isn't going to bring its power to weight ratio up to anything above other lams approved bikes. That was what he told me anyway.

On another note I'm looking at buying an rc390....maybe as soon as today. Ridden Kim's for ages sxf 350, sxf 250 and exc 520, thoughts on the bike? To me it all seems pretty great. I mean the Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding it but surely that part of the charm right ?

Yeh i've ridden Kim's for ages too but really did prefer Monica's and Angela's if i'm honest.

[Rikard]

Yeh i've ridden Kim's for ages too but really did prefer Monica's and Angela's if i'm honest.

Hey man you forgot Lizzie. Everyone's ridden one of those .

[Big Dog]

Read that while drinking a cup of coffee. Now there's coffee everywhere.....

Then my work here is done.

Ps I get sore arms but not a sore arse on my Honda. Guess that's because I rarely take a pillion these days. Bit of a reach around required to maintain flow on the other hand.


Stupid phone / Tapatalk, apologies in advance.

[mossy1200]

Honda salesman told me that I'll get a sore bum and sore arms after 3 hours of riding.

You asked an old salesman on Viagra about a discount on a new Honda?