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    Wonder how many of these will ever actually go "offroad"?
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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Wonder how many of these will ever actually go "offroad"?
    How many sports bike's go to the track....Bit the same innit!
    We buy them for the joy of looking and feeling like a rider who 'can'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Waihou Thumper View Post
    How many sports bike's go to the track....Bit the same innit!
    We buy them for the joy of looking and feeling like a rider who 'can'
    Cough, SUV of motorcycles, cough......
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    There ya go, get that seen too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Wonder how many of these will ever actually go "offroad"?
    They're not really an 'offroad' bike to be fair. They're tourers that are not adverse to having a bit of fun on gravel. You can't even really get knobblies that won't be destroyed by the weight of this style of bike in no time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Wonder how many of these will ever actually go "offroad"?
    I've been off the rails for a while, does that count? Also, define off road. True bush bashing, no road around type stuff is quite rare.

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    They're not really an 'offroad' bike to be fair. They're tourers that are not adverse to having a bit of fun on gravel. You can't even really get knobblies that won't be destroyed by the weight of this style of bike in no time.
    And that's why I'm annoyed when people take a GS and complain it needs 30+ more hp, or why does a tourer have 150hp etc. I've been up a rough gravel road, slightly crossed up, rear wheel spinning (felt like a god ) and 115hp ish was plenty... More HP only kills the tyre faster...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    I've been off the rails for a while, does that count? Also, define off road. True bush bashing, no road around type stuff is quite rare.


    And that's why I'm annoyed when people take a GS and complain it needs 30+ more hp, or why does a tourer have 150hp etc. I've been up a rough gravel road, slightly crossed up, rear wheel spinning (felt like a god ) and 115hp ish was plenty... More HP only kills the tyre faster...
    If there's a smile on your face then you've got the right tool for the job I reckon. Fark everyone else

    Whoever owns a bike is entitled to do whatever they please with it. Sadly that seems to be a concept that is difficult to grasp for most. Guess they can't see past marketing tactics.

    Did you follow the last 'race to the sky' at all? Birch, with all his immense skill, was plagued with rear tyre problems on the big KTM. One thing to hammer down on sand (the big old Dakar bikes in mind) compared to the seal and hard packed gravel I guess. Few of the competitors said it was well off the pace of the other bikes anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazz View Post
    If there's a smile on your face then you've got the right tool for the job I reckon. Fark everyone else

    Whoever owns a bike is entitled to do whatever they please with it. Sadly that seems to be a concept that is difficult to grasp for most. Guess they can't see past marketing tactics.

    Did you follow the last 'race to the sky' at all? Birch, with all his immense skill, was plagued with rear tyre problems on the big KTM. One thing to hammer down on sand (the big old Dakar bikes in mind) compared to the seal and hard packed gravel I guess. Few of the competitors said it was well off the pace of the other bikes anyway.
    Yep, that's totally true, long as you're enjoying it. Plus the world would be a boring place if everyone rode the same thing. It's just that those vocal buggers are heard more than the rest that are happy. Except they probably buy a new one every two years ... so maybe they're worth more to BMW

    No, didn't watch Race to Sky, but yes, I wouldn't be surprised. On gravel I can easily provoke the BMW into wheel spin from exiting a corner to down the straight past 100kph from 1st to 5th gear...

    The Honda has about 100hp? Might be a little underpowered if you want to storm along on seal 2up, but then while it can do it, that's not the main focus... get a 1200 Crosstourer for that...
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    They reckon they are to hard to ride and no fun offroad I guess.

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    but once again you proved me wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post


    And that's why I'm annoyed when people take a GS and complain it needs 30+ more hp, or why does a tourer have 150hp etc. I've been up a rough gravel road, slightly crossed up, rear wheel spinning (felt like a god ) and 115hp ish was plenty... More HP only kills the tyre faster...
    Chuckle

    I still remember the day (when your ZX10 was still your pride and joy) that I told you I foresaw knobblies in your future. You looked at me like i was insane (which of course may have been quite true)
    I may not be as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I always was.

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    Interesting reading above. $70k on the GS? scared to ask how you ran that up .....


    100hp may not be enough for two up on the seal? Yesterday I was reading a old review about the Z900 Kawasaki Superbike of 1973 - now this 'beast' had a whopping 81 hp on tap and was a eye opening power horse.

    Just spent a week up Kaiteriteri way with the family - lots of off the seal roads around there that would be ideal for exploring on a good all-rounder.

    Reckon I should grab a cheap in-line four off trade me - strip off the crap add some wide fat-bars and spoon some adventure tyres on it .....

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    Hmmm - anyone actually scrambling on their Ducati Scrambler? I spied a muddy one a few weeks back but it almost looked like a factory accessory 'mud kit' that you buy in a genuine Ducati tube and flick over your bike to look authentic ..... Ducati now offer a nice accessory catalog for their bikes - something HD have done for decades and now the other brands are finally taking notice (Triumph offer a great array of goodies).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bass View Post
    You looked at me like i was insane (which of course may have been quite true)
    Yeah... you were (or are). Now I am too...

    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Interesting reading above. $70k on the GS? scared to ask how you ran that up .....
    It was due to another thread on servicing costs. Bike was about 35k, and I've spent about that on accessories, servicing, consumables

    And since it's probably worth $10-15k on a good day... it just ain't worth switching... but I love it, so it doesn't matter.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    100hp may not be enough for two up on the seal? Yesterday I was reading a old review about the Z900 Kawasaki Superbike of 1973 - now this 'beast' had a whopping 81 hp on tap and was a eye opening power horse.
    An ST1300 is 118hp or so. Dunno what kind of touring journos do but I think 100hp is plenty. Be more worried about my neck and bewttocks after a 500km + ride.
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    Test ride parameters....

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