Hammock or tent?

**FJRider** · 21st May 2015, 20:30

Originally Posted by Erelyes

... if you bring the missus along.

ONE of you will be warm ...

**chasio** · 21st May 2015, 20:54

Originally Posted by Trials Rider

Yip I totally agree about the bugs, I have spent some shit nights tossing and turning from being bitten and then finally after what seems to be a 45 hour long night wake up and find you face looks like you have been in a bad pub scrap and lost.

I love my Hilleberg Nallo 2 tent, it is a two person tent so plenty of room for me on one side and gear on the other side http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_s...t.php?prod=227 and at 2.4kg packed weight it is non event packing it on the bike, I can fit the tent, sleeping mat, air pump, pillow, jacket in a 20 Litre roll top bag http://www.motomox.co.nz/shop/show_s...t.php?prod=232 it is convenient having the tent bag separate from the main bag, it is first off the bike to set up your home and chuck everything in for the night.

Yes, great tent and one recommended by Ray Mears, who knows a thing or twothousand about back country life. I got mine second-hand for $300 with a saved search on TardMe. Was pretty happy with that

**MarkH** · 22nd May 2015, 06:43

Originally Posted by FJRider

And it matters little if you sleep in a tent ... or hammock. YOU WILL BE WARM ...

Thus concluding that a hammock is NOT cold to sleep in, provided you do the insulation right.

I currently have my hammock set up in the workshop for testing purposes, I'm not going to try this stuff out while away from home - much better to get everything sorted in the back yard or workshop. I have a poncho liner setup as an under-quilt and my down sleeping bag as a top quilt, I have a fly and hammock and tree straps & whoopie slings. I've used it for a couple of hours during the day and it felt warm and comfy, next step is to try sleeping overnight in it.
For mid winter I think I'll need to get (or make from an old sleeping bag) a warmer under-quilt as the poncho liner is not all that thick.

**puddytat** · 22nd May 2015, 15:37

I reckon there'll always be a wind chill factor in a hammock under a tarp. Not saying its a bad thing but a small zipped up tent is simply going to be warmer.
A tent or a hammock will always require suitable insulation underneath you in cooler temperatures. The advantage I see with a hammock/tarp set up is the summer thing. But then there's bugs,which can mean in some areas that you'll get sandflies in the morning & evening or if it looks like raining, then just as its getting dark they'll be replaced with mossies'.
So the ideal would be netting over yer hammock.

**MarkH** · 22nd May 2015, 16:26

Originally Posted by puddytat

I reckon there'll always be a wind chill factor in a hammock under a tarp. Not saying its a bad thing but a small zipped up tent is simply going to be warmer.
A tent or a hammock will always require suitable insulation underneath you in cooler temperatures. The advantage I see with a hammock/tarp set up is the summer thing. But then there's bugs,which can mean in some areas that you'll get sandflies in the morning & evening or if it looks like raining, then just as its getting dark they'll be replaced with mossies'.
So the ideal would be netting over yer hammock.

I've slept in a tent at the Cold Kiwi when there was a heavy frost - it certainly didn't feel warmer.
Obviously you would need good insulation underneath you in a hammock otherwise convection will ensure your arse will freeze.
Hammocks with bug nets are easy enough to find, I bought one for US$25.

I'd agree that there is an advantage in summer when the hammock can be cooler, but in winter you only need the good under quilt and top quilt to be warm and comfy even in snowy cold weather.

**bart** · 22nd May 2015, 16:45

A hammock would be the bomb (that means good) in Aussie. The further from the ground the better with all those creepy crawly critters.

**_Shrek_** · 22nd May 2015, 16:51

Originally Posted by puddytat

I reckon there'll always be a wind chill factor in a hammock under a tarp. Not saying its a bad thing but a small zipped up tent is simply going to be warmer.

2010 Brass Monkey 6inchs of snow I was probably the only one sleeping out side that didn't freeze his nuts off &

all night going by the talk in the morning.... I've been using the hammock since 06 as far as bugs go they seem to leave me alone either that I'm not feeling anything when I fall into it

**FJRider** · 22nd May 2015, 17:29

Originally Posted by MarkH

I've slept in a tent at the Cold Kiwi when there was a heavy frost - it certainly didn't feel warmer.

I slept in a tent at a Brass Monkey with the temperature dropping to minus 14. It didn't feel warm(er) then either.

A good speeping bag is worth ALL the $$$ you spend on it.

**awa355** · 22nd May 2015, 18:04

Originally Posted by FJRider

I slept in a tent at a Brass Monkey with the temperature dropping to minus 14. It didn't feel warm(er) then either.

A good speeping bag is worth ALL the $$$ you spend on it.

All you need to warm the tent is a meal of baked beans for tea.

**FJRider** · 22nd May 2015, 18:18

Originally Posted by awa355

All you need to warm the tent is a meal of baked beans for tea.

But do NOT light a match ...

**MarkH** · 22nd May 2015, 18:30

Originally Posted by FJRider

A good speeping bag is worth ALL the $$$ you spend on it.

^ this
Even if you buy a cheapie tent, get a GOOD sleeping bag, the money you spend is never wasted.

**_Shrek_** · 23rd May 2015, 11:05

Originally Posted by MarkH

a GOOD sleeping bag, the money you spend is never wasted.

aye I got a 4 season marmot -29 on special for $850 & a -17 three season for head office for $400 as she doesn't do cold,

Katmandu do really good specials for students these days...

Motomox.com has all the goodies on line camping,riding etc...