Crash statistics

[Ocean1]

Or dirt bikes vs road bikes

Why? If you're not crashing your dirt bike regularly you're not doing it right.

[Zedder]

Really interesting topic right there. About culture, of which demographics would be an interesting thread.

The motorcycling demographic that polarises a lot of people is the Power Ranger on the bike model ending with lots of Rs. The bike that comes out once a week or less often, and which won't operate unless the rider has matching leathers with a back protector and sliders all over. And of course a helmet with The Doctor splashed across it.

I've always been more a fan of The Cure, than of The Doctor.

Sunday comes, they dress up like Valentino Rossi, and ride on public roads as if in qualifying for a local GP.

I've always been dim on those, as all it takes to join that crowd is a big cheque book and an ego to match.

Of course there are those in that group who are totally skilled and risk averse, but sadly they get lumped in with the rest.

They seem to be the ones with the Go Pro obsession too. Both to record their own exploits and those of other people who they want to capture doing dumb stuff so they can post it on social media.

Just venting really.

Lol rtc, very interesting post. You've probably well earned the right to the venting.

[rastuscat]

Lol rtc, very interesting post. You've probably well earned the right to the venting.

Wait til I no longer wear the blue suit. When I can vent without fear of the IPCA.

[Zedder]

Wait til I no longer wear the blue suit. When I can vent without fear of the IPCA.

I can almost see the blue layers peeling off from here now. Will you be selling tickets to the "show"?

[iaingsx1300r]

[QUOTE=rastuscat;1130865954]Really interesting topic right there. About culture, of which demographics would be an interesting thread.

The motorcycling demographic that polarises a lot of people is the Power Ranger on the bike model ending with lots of Rs. The bike that comes out once a week or less often, and which won't operate unless the rider has matching leathers with a back protector and sliders all over. And of course a helmet with The Doctor splashed across it.

Have to disagree there. The majority of Fknuckles I see on sunny weekend jaunts are those on cruisers. These are the clowns (many exceptions of course) most likely to barrel up the inside lane at warp speed and overtake all and sundry on blind corners. I'm still saving for the 'R' version of my bike so I'll reserve judgement as to how that will affect my riding.

[rastuscat]

[QUOTE=iaingsx1300r;1130865972]

Really interesting topic right there. About culture, of which demographics would be an interesting thread.

The motorcycling demographic that polarises a lot of people is the Power Ranger on the bike model ending with lots of Rs. The bike that comes out once a week or less often, and which won't operate unless the rider has matching leathers with a back protector and sliders all over. And of course a helmet with The Doctor splashed across it.

Have to disagree there. The majority of Fknuckles I see on sunny weekend jaunts are those on cruisers. These are the clowns (many exceptions of course) most likely to barrel up the inside lane at warp speed and overtake all and sundry on blind corners. I'm still saving for the 'R' version of my bike so I'll reserve judgement as to how that will affect my riding.

The cruiser crowd will be a topic of a future rant. As will the Tallulah riders of pretty scooters while wearing a skirt, no gloves and a pair of WW1 goggles.

Does anyone have that list of the various motorcycle demographics? I'll give them all a serve, except the one I'm in, of course. This is KB.

[Night Falcon]

Please supply deaths data and weather charts for the last 12 months.

The deaths data is still being gathered....just when ya think you've got it totalled another one pops off.


The weather data is solely dependant on whether the weather guy can weather the weather to deliver the weather data, as he's busy this time of year with his wether's. So in short, the data is dependant on whether the weather guys wether's are weathering the weather or whether they will wilt and wither in the weather.

[Zedder]

The deaths data is still being gathered....just when ya think you've got it totalled another one pops off.


The weather data is solely dependant on whether the weather guy can weather the weather to deliver the weather data, as he's busy this time of year with his wether's. So in short, the data is dependant on whether the weather guys wether's are weathering the weather or whether they will wilt and wither in the weather.

Lol, just don't delete the deaths data dude.

[swbarnett]

Why? If you're not crashing your dirt bike regularly you're not doing it right.

Which is a good reason to remove dirt bikes from the stats.

[eldog]

Which is a good reason to remove dirt bikes from the stats.

absolutely

should we also remove those accidents that occurred which weren't on the road too? - Adventure/gravel riders. Race track etc.

[swbarnett]

absolutely

should we also remove those accidents that occurred which weren't on the road too? - Adventure/gravel riders. Race track etc.

To draw a comparison to the average road-going car (which is what is really important for ACC cost relativity) then, as you say, absolutely.

[eldog]

To draw a comparison to the average road-going car (which is what is really important for ACC cost relativity) then, as you say, absolutely.

got to compare apples with apples

do the stats include, off road cars, etc etc etc.

[eldog]

[QUOTE=rastuscat;1130865977]

topic of a future rant the Tallulah riders of pretty scooters while wearing no skirt, gloves and a pair of WW1 goggles. This is KB.

Fixed it for ya RC - this is KB right

[Erelyes]

Here's a more alarming statistic: 1 out of every 1 person dies regardless of weather they ride a motorcycle or not.

Statistically, out of 107 billion people that have ever lived, 7 billion are still alive.

[swbarnett]

got to compare apples with apples

Agreed.

do the stats include, off road cars, etc etc etc.

Probably. Would be good to see all categories broken down as much as possible.


Or.... We could make this whole discussion null an void and just evenly distribute the ACC cost via income tax. This is, of course, the main reason that most people are interested in these stats.

Of course there is the other salient point that it matters not if motorcyclists are 100 times more likely to kill themselves than car drivers. Charging motorcyclists more is just ideological prejudice. You don't see mountain climbers or sky divers charged according to the risk involved in their chosen activity.