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    Dyno/Tuning in Auckland?

    I'm looking at purchasing a Power Commander III USB for my Hornet 900 and have read that in order to get the best use out of the PC3 one should dyno their bike and adjust the maps accordingly.

    The Hornet runs rich from stock and having installed aftermarket slip ons I thought it may be time to get things sorted out.

    As someone who has no idea about any of this sort of stuff, where do people recommend to go for this sort of stuff in the wider Auckland area?

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    Just be aware that a mate had a PC in his CB919 and it eventually failed while the bike was fine... took a while to get to the bottom of the problem too

    Re Tuning, TripleZee is out Takanini way from memory, Red Baron has a dyno I think but not a great reputation, and AMPS has one I think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Just be aware that a mate had a PC in his CB919 and it eventually failed while the bike was fine... took a while to get to the bottom of the problem too

    Re Tuning, TripleZee is out Takanini way from memory, Red Baron has a dyno I think but not a great reputation, and AMPS has one I think?
    Most faults with PCs are bad fitment. Use a bad connection to the loom and bad earths. Common on 919s.

    R&R powersports over the Shore would be your best bet. Expect to pay $600 plus tax.

    Not sure Triplezee has the dyno running but could be wrong on this.
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    Power commander failures are NORMALLY due the connection they supply for the Fuel line wire! Just never use there crimping devise supplied, hard soldier it proffesionally and that will NEVER fail

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post

    R&R powersports over the Shore would be your best bet. Expect to pay $600 plus tax.
    For only a dyno or including the price of a power commander?

    I've looked online and there are a ton of readily available maps for the 919.

    My understanding is a dyno will show your fuel/air mixture ratio over a given set of RPMs meaning you can try different maps to see what alleviates any bad spots that occur?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The End View Post
    For only a dyno or including the price of a power commander?

    I've looked online and there are a ton of readily available maps for the 919.

    My understanding is a dyno will show your fuel/air mixture ratio over a given set of RPMs meaning you can try different maps to see what alleviates any bad spots that occur?
    For the dyno work to set the PC up for your bike. Not one in the US. Remember the US has different atmospheric conditions to here, US setups are often way off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    For the dyno work to set the PC up for your bike. Not one in the US. Remember the US has different atmospheric conditions to here, US setups are often way off.
    Good point - had no idea it would be that expensive though. May be better to spend that money upgrading the suspension.

    The PC3 was more of an idea to try and fix how rich the bike runs and clear out the low end jumpy-ness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The End View Post
    Good point - had no idea it would be that expensive though. May be better to spend that money upgrading the suspension.

    The PC3 was more of an idea to try and fix how rich the bike runs and clear out the low end jumpy-ness.
    Bike runs rich in some places and lean others. I would put the money into a good shock setup and a fork re-valve.
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    I had a custom map made for my 919 at AMPS. They did a good job, they might still do a Honda I don't know. I was advised at the time that there are a few of these dynos around but the results will be largely dependent on the skill of the operator.
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    The Hornet isn't the most fuel efficient around, especially not compared to the newest fuel sippers... but I've found the engine quite smooth, good torque down low, power higher up etc.

    $600 won't do much in suspension, but yes, stock, the Hornet's suspension definitely came from the budget bin. Mine has Ohlins rear shock ($2k+) and the fork internals were re-done last year which has helped balance the better rear shock.

    Also consider wide bars if you don't already have them, which helps with handling.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jane Omorogbe from UK MSN on the KTM990SM
    It's barking mad and if it doesn't turn you into a complete loon within half an hour of cocking a leg over the lofty 875mm seat height, I'll eat my Arai.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    The Hornet isn't the most fuel efficient around, especially not compared to the newest fuel sippers... but I've found the engine quite smooth, good torque down low, power higher up etc.

    $600 won't do much in suspension, but yes, stock, the Hornet's suspension definitely came from the budget bin. Mine has Ohlins rear shock ($2k+) and the fork internals were re-done last year which has helped balance the better rear shock.

    Also consider wide bars if you don't already have them, which helps with handling.
    $600 will get you a reworked CBR600 F3 shock with a new piston and spring setup for your bike form Daugherty Motorsports. Then for the cost of 2 1mm drill bits and some fork oil you can have a fork that works much better.

    Our 1200 Bandit gets better fuel economy than my old Hornet ever did.
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    AMPS say they have upgraded their dyno and it won't do Power Commander any more.
    He said call Lincoln on 027 273 1989 - on the Shore apparently?


    Re the US/NZ comparison for the online maps:
    My GSXR came preloaded with a map for a two brothers slip on exhaust. It seemed to be a bit rich and was lumpy on idle.

    I installed the map for Yoshimura slip on from PC website, although this presumed that I had excluded the SET valve.
    I actually have a Yoshimura bolt on (SET valve still in place) but that set-up was only available for "European models".

    Emailed PC and they said the use the euro one. They thought euro GSXRs would be no different for NZ ones.


    I find this map smoother (it has stopped trying to pop wheelies every twist). I can't tell if it is more powerful really because it is a thou and still insanely awesome regardless! The only one to get a nice idle was the yoshimura slip on.

    Any advice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyk5614 View Post
    AMPS say they have upgraded their dyno and it won't do Power Commander any more.
    He said call Lincoln on 027 273 1989 - on the Shore apparently?


    Re the US/NZ comparison for the online maps:
    My GSXR came preloaded with a map for a two brothers slip on exhaust. It seemed to be a bit rich and was lumpy on idle.

    I installed the map for Yoshimura slip on from PC website, although this presumed that I had excluded the SET valve.
    I actually have a Yoshimura bolt on (SET valve still in place) but that set-up was only available for "European models".

    Emailed PC and they said the use the euro one. They thought euro GSXRs would be no different for NZ ones.


    I find this map smoother (it has stopped trying to pop wheelies every twist). I can't tell if it is more powerful really because it is a thou and still insanely awesome regardless! The only one to get a nice idle was the yoshimura slip on.

    Any advice?
    Cheers mate, was never aiming to squeeze more power out of it more so just to smooth out the power delivery and richness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonnyk5614 View Post
    (it has stopped trying to pop wheelies every twist).
    Sounds like a step in the wrong direction to be honest

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