Full License Soon - 600cc or 1000cc?

[Erelyes]

So you are saying that all 1000 and 600 cc bikes weight the same? I was not aware of that as I would have thought 1000s would have to be built beefier to handle the higher power.

No I'm not saying that, and if you think I am, you're a fuckwit.

[caseye]

No I'm not saying that, and if you think I am, you're a fuckwit.

lol, the jury's out on whether it's a girly or a boy without one!
But you got that 100% right IT is a fuckwit.

[TheDemonLord]

But you got that 100% right IT is a fuckwit.

Bruce/Caitlyn is that you?

[bogan]

So you are saying that all 1000 and 600 cc bikes weight the same? I was not aware of that as I would have thought 1000s would have to be built beefier to handle the higher power.

Once a bike is capable of lifting the front end, where does the extra power go that could require such heavy strengthening?

Rotational inertia has more effect on wind stability than a few kg, that's why bigger bikes feel more stable.

[nodrog:Me]

So you are saying that all 1000 and 600 cc bikes weight the same? I was not aware of that as I would have thought 1000s would have to be built beefier to handle the higher power.

Well you thought wrong, knob goblin.

[nzspokes]

So you are saying that all 1000 and 600 cc bikes weight the same? I was not aware of that as I would have thought 1000s would have to be built beefier to handle the higher power.

We have a Bandit 1200, a GSXR1000 would easily be 30 to 40 kg lighter and have a ton more power. HTH

[PrincessBandit]

I too am of the "went from250 to 650" group and while I've sometimes wondered about something "bigger" have been perfectly happy with what the bandit does for me.
Weightwise (since that has been brought up) it's a heavy ass bike and is frequently mistaken by others for the 1250.

Heaps of other posts already have said 600-750 cc bikes will give you all the power and speed you want (legally and illegally) depending on what model you go for. Do more homework and test riding.

[EJK]

I like the laziness and the bottom end torque of litre bikes, and everywhere I go and anything I do I know I'm understressing the engine.

[Latte]

I like the laziness and the bottom end torque of litre bikes, and everywhere I go and anything I do I know I'm understressing the engine.

This, for me at least.


OP go test ride, find the bike that works for you. You might find the thou way too much to handle, or you might get on with it really well, and find the 600 causes you to thrash it everywhere. You might hate them both and look at nakeds / supermoto's etc etc

[baffa]

This, for me at least.


OP go test ride, find the bike that works for you. You might find the thou way too much to handle, or you might get on with it really well, and find the 600 causes you to thrash it everywhere. You might hate them both and look at nakeds / supermoto's etc etc

OP will probably buy what he thinks looks best, and then end up buying a non supersports later.
I've had a couple of supersports, and will probably buy another in the next couple of years, but I'm loving a torquey naked thou at the moment.

[nzspokes]

OP will probably buy what he thinks looks best, and then end up buying a non supersports later.
I've had a couple of supersports, and will probably buy another in the next couple of years, but I'm loving a torquey naked thou at the moment.

Yeah the 900 Hornets/Predators etc are good little step up bikes without to much power to get you into trouble.

I would like a Gsxr1k. But I know I couldnt handle the position for long rides which would make it pointless.

[baffa]

Yeah the 900 Hornets/Predators etc are good little step up bikes without to much power to get you into trouble.

I would like a Gsxr1k. But I know I couldnt handle the position for long rides which would make it pointless.

That sounds so beautifully condescending to Predator owners such as myself.

I would point out though, my 2010 preddy has a lot more torque and lower gearing than my 2007 Fireblade had, with slightly weaker brakes and combined with lower quality suspension and a few other factors make it harder to handle at speed. Meaning that whilst I would recommend Preddys and similiar bikes to anyone, nothing is easier to ride at speed than a supersport.

[TheDemonLord]

That sounds so beautifully condescending to Predator owners such as myself.

I would point out though, my 2010 preddy has a lot more torque and lower gearing than my 2007 Fireblade had, with slightly weaker brakes and combined with lower quality suspension and a few other factors make it harder to handle at speed. Meaning that whilst I would recommend Preddys and similiar bikes to anyone, nothing is easier to ride at speed than a supersport.

If they did a fully faired Predator - I would be keen beans

[nzspokes]

That sounds so beautifully condescending to Predator owners such as myself.

I would point out though, my 2010 preddy has a lot more torque and lower gearing than my 2007 Fireblade had, with slightly weaker brakes and combined with lower quality suspension and a few other factors make it harder to handle at speed. Meaning that whilst I would recommend Preddys and similiar bikes to anyone, nothing is easier to ride at speed than a supersport.

Well how am I supposed to know what you ride?

I also didnt say there was anything wrong with them. Ive owned a 900 Hornet and ridden a Predator. They are nice bikes, just not super powerful.

Long term i didnt enjoy the Hornet but it never let me down in 30,000ks. I prefer the little Bandit for everyday use.

[Gremlin]

I also didnt say there was anything wrong with them. Ive owned a 900 Hornet and ridden a Predator. They are nice bikes, just not super powerful.

Uh... define super powerful? It makes over 100hp (same amount as a VTR actually), just delivers it in typical Honda fashion... smooooth.

Ask it to deliver it quickly... and oh yes, there is plenty because it can actually get off the line faster than super sport/bikes due to the lower gearing (unless the sportsbike does a drag launch, revs etc)