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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If they did a fully faired Predator - I would be keen beans
    They do. It's called a Fireblade. It has a couple of other tweaks as well. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by p.dath View Post
    They do. It's called a Fireblade. It has a couple of other tweaks as well. :-)
    I was waiting for someone to say that :P

    the Predator riding position and the fireblade riding position are worlds appart if you are fat man sized
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemonLord View Post
    If they did a fully faired Predator - I would be keen beans
    So a fully faired, upright, 1000cc bike.... wouldn't that just be a competitor to their already excellent VFR800?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post
    So a fully faired, upright, 1000cc bike.... wouldn't that just be a competitor to their already excellent VFR800?
    Europe gets the CBF1000. It's not exactly a faired Predator though. Dunno how they managed to snuff that engine down to 100hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Europe gets the CBF1000. It's not exactly a faired Predator though. Dunno how they managed to snuff that engine down to 100hp.
    9000rpm... it should last until Princess Anne ascends the throne.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erelyes View Post
    9000rpm... it should last until Princess Anne ascends the throne.
    Yeah. It's obviously a Bandit competitor but I suspect I'd rather have a CB1300S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    Uh... define super powerful? It makes over 100hp (same amount as a VTR actually), just delivers it in typical Honda fashion... smooooth.

    Ask it to deliver it quickly... and oh yes, there is plenty because it can actually get off the line faster than super sport/bikes due to the lower gearing (unless the sportsbike does a drag launch, revs etc)
    I would say upwards of 150hp would be getting there. I believe BMW make a 1000cc naked thats proper quick.

    Never said a VTR had more power, but for me it was 15 secs a lap quicker round Hampton first time out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Europe gets the CBF1000. It's not exactly a faired Predator though. Dunno how they managed to snuff that engine down to 100hp.
    Its a shame we didnt get the Honda X-11s, only the imported ones. 135hp naked from memory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Its a shame we didnt get the Honda X-11s, only the imported ones. 135hp naked from memory.
    It sounds a bit dull compared to what a naked blackbird might be. I certainly like the idea though.

    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    I believe BMW make a 1000cc naked thats proper quick.
    Reckon. The S1000R is one thing but I'd really like a go on an S1000XR.

    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Never said a VTR had more power, but for me it was 15 secs a lap quicker round Hampton first time out.
    Can't really see how. They have the same power. They have the same weight. They have the same riding position. It seems like a personal thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ender EnZed View Post
    Can't really see how. They have the same power. They have the same weight. They have the same riding position. It seems like a personal thing.
    Same riding position? No, nothing like. VTR has a more ridged frame and linkage rear suspension. Neither are high tech race bikes. They are close on HP but very different on how they deliver it.
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    600 vs 1000 pt 2

    Hey OP, I'll tell you another secret. On a 1000cc it's near impossible to stall the bike on 1st gear . I mean, from standing still just ease out the clutch (no gas!) and the bike will smoothly take you up to 15-18kph.... on idle!! I'm not sure if you can do that on a 600.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nzspokes View Post
    Well how am I supposed to know what you ride?

    I also didnt say there was anything wrong with them. Ive owned a 900 Hornet and ridden a Predator. They are nice bikes, just not super powerful.

    Long term i didnt enjoy the Hornet but it never let me down in 30,000ks. I prefer the little Bandit for everyday use.
    You werent, it just sounded quite funny the way you wrote it.

    The predator has torque limited slightly in 1st and 2nd, combined with a heavy and quiet factory exhaust, it sells the bike short.
    Mines now about as loud as it can legally be, and is a hilarious wheelie machine, but it still probably only makes 130hp on a good day.
    I'd love a S1000 or similiar, but I'd settle for a small supercharger on my current steed.

    In some markets you can get a CB1000R, CBF1000, CBR1000RR, on top of the VFR and other offerings, but they all have different pluses and minues. Sometimes I wish I lived in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJK View Post
    On a 1000cc it's near impossible to stall the bike on 1st gear . I mean, from standing still just ease out the clutch (no gas!) and the bike will smoothly take you up to 15-18kph.... on idle!!
    This is not how mine works.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJK View Post
    Hey OP, I'll tell you another secret. On a 1000cc it's near impossible to stall the bike on 1st gear . I mean, from standing still just ease out the clutch (no gas!) and the bike will smoothly take you up to 15-18kph.... on idle!! I'm not sure if you can do that on a 600.
    Turn your idle down ...
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