Ummm... Maori drivers not issued tickets?

**AllanB** · 16th June 2015, 21:41

Racist shit. PC shit. Fuck it all. Stuff the lot of us into a big blender and spit us out in the same colour. Sorted.

**Virago** · 16th June 2015, 21:51

Originally Posted by AllanB

Racist shit. PC shit. Fuck it all. Stuff the lot of us into a big blender and spit us out in the same colour. Sorted.

Except the Asians. I don't want to lose the ability to drive.

**mossy1200** · 16th June 2015, 21:56

Originally Posted by AllanB

Racist shit. PC shit. Fuck it all. Stuff the lot of us into a big blender and spit us out in the same colour. Sorted.

Great theory except then we would all come out average drivers. No great drivers and no poor drivers.
Im not ready to accept im just an average driver yet.
That's a no to blending down my awesomeness.

**FJRider** · 16th June 2015, 22:14

Originally Posted by Delerium

irrelevant. Its a different basis for a different group because of race. The policy is racist. The end.

Two bits you might have missed ...

And police say they have the discretion to do the same for non-Maori drivers, but that's not spelt in the document.

The police position remains that the document is simply a guideline and not an instruction to staff, and is not about race.

No data on numbers dealt with under this scheme ... or the success rate ... (has anybody actually asked) ..

Or ... who the (as yet un-named) Police sources the article was based on were ....

But it made the news ... so I guess it must be true ....

**caseye** · 16th June 2015, 22:52

Originally Posted by FJRider

Did you miss this bit in the link .. ??
Nope, see. I note that if they do nothing the fine does still come their way.

It is not a get off the fine ... no strings attached.
I did say I'd wager a lot of money that I believe more would never see the fine than do.

And nothing in the scheme to stop the cop attaching a pink/green sticker to the windscreen either.

Correct and as also stated we see evidence of those stickers and warrants being blatantly ignored, most often when it's 90% of those stopped who are what race? on Thursday night cop shows, no wonder the Aussies think it's a comedy programme when it shows over there.

I'm not hating I'm just saying what we are told and what is being done are 2 totally different things, Because it's made the news doesn't mean it has to be true, but written words that are not refuted by Mr Haumaha ( I know how to spell it, cause his mumma taught me at school) are the instigator of what I'd say on the face of it are racist policies.
No matter that policies intention, this is how it looks.
An you know what, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck.
It's a bloody duck!
1 Rule of law for us all, is this too much to ask?

**jellywrestler** · 16th June 2015, 23:02

i'm a sparky, they tell me at the manakau polytech the maoris get an extra hour to sit their exams too.....

**Stylo** · 16th June 2015, 23:49

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

i'm a sparky, they tell me at the manakau polytech the maoris get an extra hour to sit their exams too.....

I wonder how Rastus would have handled this one ?

Can of worms in the making here, 'You can't give me a ticket, I'll have you know I'm 1/10th Maori for heavens sake officer!'

Is this the case of 'one rule for us all, but another rule for the Maoris ?'

Slippery slope and I hope not. Also the start of the shit journalism and bad reporting we're going to have to get used to. Not to mention the daily spelling and grammatical mistakes.

John Campbell will be grinning .....

**Crasherfromwayback** · 17th June 2015, 00:24

Originally Posted by FJRider

Two bits you might have missed ...
:

Exactly.

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

i'm a sparky, they tell me at the manakau polytech the maoris get an extra hour to sit their exams too.....

Who is they?

**Kickaha** · 17th June 2015, 06:54

Originally Posted by Crasherfromwayback

Who is they?

The voices in his head

**Rhys** · 17th June 2015, 09:36

Originally Posted by Kickaha

The voices in his head

Do you hear them as well

**Ulsterkiwi** · 17th June 2015, 09:45

Originally Posted by jellywrestler

i'm a sparky, they tell me at the manakau polytech the maoris get an extra hour to sit their exams too.....

Perhaps chinese whispers are to blame for what "they" told you. There are any number of reasons why a student would be afforded extra time to sit a written examination. Race is never one of them.

We could argue all day and all night about the wisdom of this policy. I think the most frightening thing of all is that each story which emerges concerning road policing policy shows those at the top of the pile seem to be incapable of learning anything. Surely successful policing also includes the support of the community at large? Repeated PR doozies do nothing but piss off the very people these guys are supposed to be providing a service for.
There is a fair possibility the document under scrutiny only formalises a practice which has quietly been implemented for some time before now. Some evidence to show why it has been or might in the future be a successful policy would have been useful to present at the same time as the document.

There has been mention of Road Cops and the softly softly approach demonstrated on this show. A perfect example of a PR cluster fuck, prime time TV should be an opportunity to show the public that dangerous drivers and vehicles are actively taken off the road, not sent on their way with a smile and wave.

**ElCoyote** · 17th June 2015, 10:27

Hang about, why are we even discussing this, Maurice Williamson foisted upon us a citizen$ identity card cleverly disguised as a LIFETIME licen$e that was guaranteed to cut the road toll to zero and catch those who drove without a license. Sadly the road toll is still trending upward and it appears that in south Auckland you don't need a licen$e at all. On ya Maurice.

**swarfie** · 17th June 2015, 10:30

Originally Posted by Ulsterkiwi

There has been mention of Road Cops and the softly softly approach demonstrated on this show. A perfect example of a PR cluster fuck, prime time TV should be an opportunity to show the public that dangerous drivers and vehicles are actively taken off the road, not sent on their way with a smile and wave.

+1 on that. I change channel now when that program comes on due to the fact my blood pressure starts to rise, when some soft cocked cop lets some arse-wipe go with a warning when they should be taken OFF THE ROAD. Or at the end of the program where they tell us that the so-in-so got a slap over the wrist with a wet lettuce leaf by the court system.

**Tazz** · 17th June 2015, 11:00

Originally Posted by Oakie

Before you get your collective panties in a knot ... it's not a get out of jail free card because you are indigenous. Comes with conditions just like this did ... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...how-about-this

Yep. Other than it being race specific I think it's a step in the right direction.