Forget about all american bikes japanese bikes

**James Deuce** · 22nd September 2005, 20:20

All good points Paul, but remember the poor buggers have to work within the limitations of European Design "Standards" and all the attendant "safety" minutiae. That sort of stuff didn't exist when the lovely machine in the picture you provided was "designed" ( I use the term loosely).

**justsomeguy** · 22nd September 2005, 20:22

The 675 in Graphite is

Scorched Yellow is

too......

**Paul in NZ** · 22nd September 2005, 20:24

Originally Posted by Jim2

All good points Paul, but remember the poor buggers have to work within the limitations of European Design "Standards" and all the attendant "safety" minutiae. That sort of stuff didn't exist when the lovely machine in the picture you provided was "designed" ( I use the term loosely).

True.... But do you think Mr Turner cared a whit what the euro's thought? Damn their eyes Wickes... EXTEND THOSE TAIL PIPES MAN!

**Motu** · 22nd September 2005, 20:37

And the pipes are on the left - for dirt track use.Anyway,the best Triumph was the Trophy,the real Trophy,the TR5......I put one together once....

**Sensei** · 22nd September 2005, 20:48

Humm I remeber my Triumph T509 Speed Triple well $6000 fixing 4 blow ups
Not little one either Clutch blown apart / 4th gear snapped in half / seized all the big ends . 2 blown Head gaskets / melted clucth plates & snapped clutch springs . Had fun on it when it did go but that wasn't often . Hope they hold together abit better these days when you Kane the shit out of them mine didn't :spudwhat:

**Big Dave** · 22nd September 2005, 20:54

Originally Posted by Sensei

Humm I remeber my Triumph T509 Speed Triple well $6000 fixing 4 blow ups
Not little one either Clutch blown apart / 4th gear snapped in half / seized all the big ends . 2 blown Head gaskets / melted clucth plates & snapped clutch springs . Had fun on it when it did go but that wasn't often . Hope they hold together abit better these days when you Kane the shit out of them mine didn't :spudwhat:

Play another record will you - I'm fucken' over that one.

lights fuse - stands back

**James Deuce** · 22nd September 2005, 20:59

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

True.... But do you think Mr Turner cared a whit what the euro's thought? (SNIP)

Not even a little bit. In fact he would have had a good laugh the first time he saw some canvas throwovers aflame, thanks to the high pipes.

**Paul in NZ** · 22nd September 2005, 21:03

Originally Posted by Motu

And the pipes are on the left - for dirt track use.Anyway,the best Triumph was the Trophy,the real Trophy,the TR5......I put one together once....

Just like the Fonz....

They could have gone with the one each side look from 66 but that was more a desert sled thing and yes, both pipes on the left was US flat track inspired (aka HD XR750) but the staggered 67 look... Ahhh... NICE!

In all seriousness... A Trackmaster version would be very cool... Motors a bit chunky lookin but.....

MD · 22nd September 2005, 21:23

Getting hard to remember what thread I posted on?
Big round of applause to Triumph. I hope the 675 cleans up the sports bike sales chart. Triumph deserve the reward for yet again being bold and different when the rest of the pack just tweak the same old recipe.
That red picture Big Dave posted is stunning.
From the pics, specs and pre-production road tests in the latest UK Bike & NZ MC Trader it looks like this might be one VERY special bike.
I was thinking about getting the next ZX10 but this looks far more interesting and hopefully a more rewarding ride.
What a great time to be a bike rider.

**Brian d marge** · 23rd September 2005, 03:03

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Good try at replicating the coolest bike Triumph ever made but...

For godsake they made a bloody hash of the pipes.... The one bit that HAD to be right and they screwed it up. They are dreadful.....

..

That scrambler ,,is poss the only NEW bike that I have said ,,yeah I like I could actually want one ......

Of the bike I currently lust after ,,ie actually think about putting down cash ,,,is ..

.ANOTHER ENFIELD ... The Urinal nightwolf or whatever its called and that triumph or the older 2 valve BMW off roader ( forget the modell code right now ,,the white one with the white power shock )

and that new Triumph scrambler ...WITH OUT THOSE PIPES .......
Terrible design truely awful......

Stephen

**Paul in NZ** · 23rd September 2005, 09:28

Originally Posted by Brian d'marge

and that new Triumph scrambler ...WITH OUT THOSE PIPES .......
Terrible design truely awful......

Stephen

Don't worry... Some clever clogs will be tooling up to fix this problem as we speak... Dear old TOGA have been churning out mufflers for yonks and will have a kit...

For those of you that think I'm mad or a triumph basher, I'm NOT. But saftey issues aside there is no excuse for poor design work and sloppy research...

Compare pictures below and I think you could agree it's more Honda CL450 and Triumph Trophy.. (Mines the green one far right) The bike they are trying to revive is the green/white 67 with the staggered pipes. But it didn't work because the pipes don't work with the rest of the bike (In my opinion only)

Triumph stuffed up the design with mine when they went for parallel outlets as they had to add an H piece and use bigger mufflers to keep the noise down (they just reused existing ones off another model) but it is still a vastly more organic line and lots prettier...