Ummm... Maori drivers not issued tickets?

[PrincessBandit]

Did I hear correctly on the news that Maori drivers can avoid a ticket for some offences and instead attend courses aimed at rectifying their law breaking; and that the media's reference to this being a race issue was described as mischievous?
Feel free to tell me I totally misheard it all!

ps was on TV 1 news this evening.

[Akzle]

any human can avoid 'tickets'

a 'driver' is legislated for, and has certain obligations under their contract with the crown.

[Mike.Gayner]

http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/excl...ckland-6339517

WTF I came into this thread to tell OP what an idiot he is, because surely this can't be as it seems......but indeed it is. Trying to reduce offending by not reporting the offending as offending. What. The. Fuck.

edit: Also the brain trust at NZ Police can't even spell "licence". No, geniuses, it's not "liscence".

[Delerium]

Good job on completely losing the faith of the public nz police.

This is just flat out racism. No other word for it.

[JimO]

its all whiteys fault

[bogan]

paging BanditBandit...

[mossy1200]

Two laws and standards has always been the long term goal. Its not fair to tax a minority group equally in NZ.

Sounds like a registration ACC thread again.

[Swoop]

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[Oakie]

Before you get your collective panties in a knot ... it's not a get out of jail free card because you are indigenous. Comes with conditions just like this did ... http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...how-about-this

[caseye]

Did I hear correctly on the news that Maori drivers can avoid a ticket for some offences and instead attend courses aimed at rectifying their law breaking; and that the media's reference to this being a race issue was described as mischievous?
Feel free to tell me I totally misheard it all!

ps was on TV 1 news this evening.

Nah PB, you heard correctly and the tragedy is that the Maori fella on the telly is a homey from my hood who bloody well knows better.
They (NZ POlice HQ) have been found out policing a racial problem by attempting to be nice where anyone else gets the big stick.
The idea, could work, if applied to all equally, the tragedy is, that in being target specific they are making this a race issue and here we are crying wolf.
Why not apply the idea to all who get caught driving without a licence?
Wait up, I sat my licence's I earned the money to pay for them,I value them, because they allow me to legally earn my living and to ride, drive, skid anywhere in this country without interference by our Police.
Why then should Anyone else get different treatment to me or the hundreds of thousands of other licenced drivers who are not and will not be given the same sort of treatment.
So go ahead NZ Police , continue to foster the them and us, put us all back another hundred years you fucking morons.
When are we going to simply stop the BS?
No More Free Money, for anyone colour or creed.
No more handouts for having kids by the bushel.
One bloody Law for all.
One bloody penalty, applied to all.
How hard could it be?

Oakie, one coppers idea, something he tried to do as often as possible, ask him if the recipients had to be any particular colour? Theres the test, the documents we've all seen for this thing, says "they do"

[FJRider]

Before you get your collective panties in a knot ... it's not a get out of jail free card because you are indigenous. Comes with conditions ...

It's about getting unlicensed drivers legal. Whats the bet those unlicensed drivers are driving a vehicle with no WOF/Rego ... which is not part of this scheme ...

But it is just another version of Complience ... of which many of us (that kept our lips zipped after being stopped by plod) have felt the benefit of ...

[caseye]

It's about getting unlicensed drivers legal. Whats the bet those unlicensed drivers are driving a vehicle with no WOF/Rego ... which is not part of this scheme ...

But it is just another version of Complience ... of which many of us (that kept our lips zipped after being stopped by plod) have felt the benefit of ...

Quite possible, but then we believed that our PC's had this thing called "discretion" and they were actually allowed to use it.
We didn't know as we do now, that there was an actual document that says "if they're Maori , don't ticket them, use diversion" I note that if they do nothing the fine does still come their way.
I'd wager a lot, that very few have received the ticket, no matter the actual outcome, lost in translation perhaps?

So if in trying to get compliance they come across unregistered unwarranted vehicles what do they do then? We see that every Thursday night on road cops, ah well, youse fellas can drive this dangerous heap of crap home if you give us your word. Yeah Right!

[FJRider]

Quite possible, but then we believed that our PC's had this thing called "discretion" and they were actually allowed to use it.
We didn't know as we do now, that there was an actual document that says "if they're Maori , don't ticket them, use diversion" I note that if they do nothing the fine does still come their way.
I'd wager a lot, that very few have received the ticket, no matter the actual outcome, lost in translation perhaps?

So if in trying to get compliance they come across unregistered unwarranted vehicles what do they do then? We see that every Thursday night on road cops, ah well, youse fellas can drive this dangerous heap of crap home if you give us your word. Yeah Right!

Did you miss this bit in the link .. ??

If after that Iwi and community support the driver has not complied within two months, a $400 ticket is then issued.

It is not a get off the fine ... no strings attached.

And nothing in the scheme to stop the cop attaching a pink/green sticker to the windscreen either.

[mossy1200]

I bet a fair amount isn't just unlicensed but also breach of license conditions. The way its reads to me is it covers license breach offences also. LAMS ??

[Delerium]

Did you miss this bit in the link .. ??



It is not a get off the fine ... no strings attached.

And nothing in the scheme to stop the cop attaching a pink/green sticker to the windscreen either.

irrelevant. Its a different basis for a different group because of race. The policy is racist. The end.