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    What credit cards are for...

    So, new tyres plus 36k service. Plus some diagnostics on a "sticky throttle" problem.

    Sticky throttle? Problem well documented on later model gixxers - just go look at the gixxer forums that abound on the interdweeb. Essentially, when a constant throttle setting is held, the engine seems to "bog" down - power drops off and it kinda farts and pops a bit. Gentle squeeze of the throttle does little to fix it. Cracking it open hard fixes it with a sudden blast of power. Which might be embarrassing in the wrong circumstances. This problem has appeared in my bike at odd intervals. You get months without a hint of it and then suddenly it's back again.

    So I got that looked at. Seems the O2 sensor is the problem. At constant revs this device does its bizzo of leaning out the mixture to save emissions. And it leans it out to a point where the engine don't run proper no more. So the advice (from Suzuki NZ) is to disconnect the O2 sensor. Which brings its own new problems with it. Like the engine not running at all. But it can be fixed and has been in my case.

    So I picked the bike up today. And got the bill. Which was, shall we say, ermmmm...a little higher than I had hoped for. My tyre fund was less than full anyway but instead of covering "most" of the bill, it covered less than half the bill. Ahem. Problem right there.

    Which is where the credit card comes in. The shop is paid and I get me bike back. All I have to do now is rob the nearest bank to pay off the visa bill.

    Still, I wonder why SNZ or indeed Suzuki world wide have done nothing about a well recognised problem that is not really the fault of any owner. Seems like a design flaw to me. Maybe they oughta fix it, dammit. And not at my friggin' cost neiver.

    Still, the scenic route home on the new tyres was worth the hassle...nothin' like new hoops!
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post

    Still, I wonder why SNZ or indeed Suzuki world wide have done nothing about a well recognised problem that is not really the fault of any owner. Seems like a design flaw to me. Maybe they oughta fix it, dammit. And not at my friggin' cost neiver.

    Still, the scenic route home on the new tyres was worth the hassle...nothin' like new hoops!
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    Did they have to fit a PCV or Bazazz or similar and then tune it to fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    Did they have to fit a PCV or Bazazz or similar and then tune it to fix it?
    Errrmmmm...I have no knowledge of such terminologies as PCV and Bazazz, but the answer is no anyway.

    They did stick a diode in there somewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slofox View Post
    Errrmmmm...I have no knowledge of such terminologies as PCV and Bazazz, but the answer is no anyway.

    They did stick a diode in there somewhere.
    Oh yup. PCV is a Power Commander V. It's basically an aftermarket piggyback unit so you can play with the bike's tuning. I thought it might explain the cost

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    Quote Originally Posted by steve_t View Post
    Oh yup. PCV is a Power Commander V. It's basically an aftermarket piggyback unit so you can play with the bike's tuning. I thought it might explain the cost
    Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SVboy View Post
    Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.
    Yep - many threads about this. Several of which support the disconnection of the O2 sensor. I doubt any map work would fix it - the sensor dictates to the ECU. Like all dictators, it needs to be shot. Which is what we have done. ht. ht. ht.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SVboy View Post
    Sadly not the solution. Many forum threads dedicated to this, but no clear answer. Shame. I too think Suzuki shoul create a fix and do a recall.
    Bugger. Some Kawi ZX6R's have a surging issue if holding at 9k RPM and there's also no answer for it either. Kawi have recommended some owners get a PCV Some seem to have success with it, others not. Crazy how the cause can't be identified!

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    is this a gixxer only issue or is it across the suzuki range, i.e the 1250 bandits or the boulivards?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    is this a gixxer only issue or is it across the suzuki range, i.e the 1250 bandits or the boulivards?
    Something like that happens with my bike, I find it hard to hold a constant speed, especially on a slight downhill run - gets a bit jumpy, and me trying to correct it makes things a bit more jumpy.
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    Please talk to my wife and explain. Maybe between us we can convince that credit cards (as you have so correctly pointed out) are not for shoes and handbags.

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    Have not heard of that problem with the boulevards but then its a whole different kind of engine
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    They did stick a diode in there somewhere.[/QUOTE]

    Diode may be there to fool ecu into thinking O2 sensor is still actve and to make sure there isnt a FI fault on dash? Did they fit another TPS?

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    Why not run a wideband O2 sensor and PCM?

    I have some sweet hammers here Slofox, or a nice bike with them Carby thingyma-jugs, those buckets what mix petrol and airs. No oh-too sensors on that slapper.
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    I had this problem on my k7, damn painful.
    Suzuki NZ didn't want to know about it.

    I mostly fixed it by adjusting the TPS myself, based on other riders detailed instructions on a Suzuki forum.

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