Community DIY Workshop

[Old Steve]

Something like that is being set up in Chicago, think it's called 'chicagomotorgarage'. I've seen it mentioned on motorcycleforum.com in General Motorcycle Discussion. If they think it could work in the USA's litigious environment then it might work anywhere.

[Akzle]

so awesome for peeps stuck in apartments.

silly fucks.
If you cant get the bike in, its not real estate.

[baffa]

Also getting business cover would be nigh on impossible due to lack of security and moral and morale risks, and difficulty in seeking compensation. If you had staff giving 1:1 or 1:2 attention to your customers with no unsupervised work then perhaps. But forget any hot works such as welding, soldering, or grinding.


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[trustme]

Lee Hurley [ Mr Rusty Nuts ] tried it in the early to mid 80's in Otahuhu. Did not go well.

[sidecar bob]

Lee Hurley [ Mr Rusty Nuts ] tried it in the early to mid 80's in Otahuhu. Did not go well.

I think you mentioned the problem in your post there as well.

[awayatc]

in Netherlands a local government funded similar set-up existed for a while....
qualified mechanic there to oversee and help the young and unemployed fix their own transport, and learn some new skills...
for a nominal fee..
even though it didn't have to make a profit, it fell over.....

The idea is great, but very hard to operate and fund in the real world....

[sidecar bob]

The biggest issue I believe is that this type of system will wither attract either shit kickers or posers, neither of which are ideal punters.

[R650R]

This was tried in Napier about 20 years ago, before the P epidemic and back when there was a lot less dishonesty and thieving.
I think it lasted several months before it closed due to constant thievery of tools etc as well as being burgled I think.

People are right about H&S aspects. You will either need one on one supervision by qualified person of have the hiree prove their competence via documentated qualification to use tools.
Only way for it too work would be to have an incorporated club or society constructed around it and entry controlled by membership only.

A good idea but in todays world with costs of compliance and cheap tools at supercheap/repco/online shopping the appropriate membership and hireage fees just make it unfeasible.

[sidecar bob]

I have a great idea that would make the whole thing work. No H&S issues, no thieving etc.
What everyone does that wants to fix their own stuff, is gets a shed of their own, either at home or somewhere else & buys all the tools & equipment to tackle the kind of work they are capable of & then they can fix their own stuff at that place & possibly even charge other people to fix their stuff as well.
I'm not sure it will catch on though.

[ellipsis]

I have a great idea that would make the whole thing work. No H&S issues, no thieving etc.
What everyone does wants to fix their own stuff, is gets a shed of their own, either at home or somewhere else & buys all the tools & equipment to tackle the kind of work they are capable of & then they can fix their own stuff at that place & possibly even charge other people to fix their stuff as well.
I'm not sure it will catch on though.

...my thoughts exactly...but while everyone these days needs a support group just to be able to breath without assistance , I cant see it happening either...whatever happened to learning and manuals and just fucken getting on with it...(will you hold my cock while I have a wank...)

[Motu]

Lee Hurley [ Mr Rusty Nuts ] tried it in the early to mid 80's in Otahuhu. Did not go well.

Salesyard Rd, I remember when he was there, he used to come and get his WoF's from me. I don't remember any free for all workshop, but there was always someone different working on a bike there. That car place was operating then on station Rd too.

[caspernz]

I have a great idea that would make the whole thing work. No H&S issues, no thieving etc.
What everyone does wants to fix their own stuff, is gets a shed of their own, either at home or somewhere else & buys all the tools & equipment to tackle the kind of work they are capable of & then they can fix their own stuff at that place & possibly even charge other people to fix their stuff as well.
I'm not sure it will catch on though.

Haha, yeah this approach works for me. The only downside was having to spend my own money and do my own learning how to do stuff, which involved that dreaded thing...a workshop manual

I'm sure the shared workshop space thing could work, albeit as a philanthropic enterprise run by some bored rich fella

[Tazz]

If this is the sort of thing you meant ... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/ar...ectid=11352636

Not sure.
It's not the 4 horsemen of the supposed apocalypse, and it's not an article about how all gyms and sports clubs in NZ are closing because of H&S BS, which would fully be applicable to them considering how dangerous some of that gear is in, well, dumb hands...

It's also from Nov 14, so I wonder if they are getting their ducks in a row or if it was thrown out?
Sucks either way, hard to fuck up making or landing in a foam pit, but people will find a way given the chance.

[awayatc]

I have a great idea that would make the whole thing work. No H&S issues, no thieving etc.
What everyone does wants to fix their own stuff, is gets a shed of their own, either at home or somewhere else & buys all the tools & equipment to tackle the kind of work they are capable of & then they can fix their own stuff at that place & possibly even charge other people to fix their stuff as well.
I'm not sure it will catch on though.

Agreed......

And for those that are not thus inclined .....
they can try to find somebody who is....
has all the proper gear...
and professional knowledge...
And pays for all the legislative red tape bullshit...

Why the fuck would you want to pay somebody like that .?
how dare they try to make a living...?

[Tazz]

Agreed......

And for those that are not thus inclined .....
they can try to find somebody who is....
has all the proper gear...
and professional knowledge...
And pays for all the legislative red tape bullshit...

Why the fuck would you want to pay somebody like that .?
how dare they try to make a living...?

You make it sound like all mechanics are created equal

Just because you've paid someone to do it doesn't mean it will be right, and it doesn't mean the charge is fair.
Luckily the local mechanic here is fuckin ace, but he's one of those backyard guys that KB would tell you not to trust and is ruining life for garages, so I shouldn't say too much.