How come?

[Drew]

What showroom stock 'big-block' H-D does mid 12 sec 1/4 miles?

Dunno, but I'm not talking about down a quarter. I'm talking about closer to an eighth mile

[J.A.W.]

Dunno, but I'm not talking about down a quarter. I'm talking about closer to an eighth mile

Me too, light bikes with punchy mills ( 158hp/litre - for the test bike) launch hard too.. RZ 350 needs only 1 shift to 100 km/h..

[F5 Dave]

I wasn't comparing the R6 to the RZ, the R6 has double the HP.

My point was - you want torque? Change down.

[Drew]

Me too, light bikes with punchy mills ( 158hp/litre - for the test bike) launch hard too.. RZ 350 needs only 1 shift to 100 km/h..

I still reckon you're talking shit.

I wasn't comparing the R6 to the RZ, the R6 has double the HP.

My point was - you want torque? Change down.

I'm not sure you're getting more torque, or more effect from the same torque. Semantics anyway. Get what ya mean.

[J.A.W.]

I wasn't comparing the R6 to the RZ, the R6 has double the HP.

My point was - you want torque? Change down.

Sure, down, down, down.. its annoying.. needing all those rpm ( +50% more) to match the specific ouput of a 30 year old bike - is weak..

[Drew]

I wonder though if I might be jumping the gun. Perhaps the two stroke has an advantage, whether it has the same torque or not. Some time ago at a group traffic light GP, my lil RGV held it's own against thousands and middleweights alike. Prolly not for 200 meters though. Some of the other guys were racers too, so it wasn't just squid factor.

[J.A.W.]

I still reckon you're talking shit.


I'm not sure you're getting more torque, or more effect from the same torque. Semantics anyway. Get what ya mean.

Def' he aint getting more torque.. its got SFA.. he's getting gearing advantage & rpm range to spread the thin torque via hp - further - like vegemite..

[J.A.W.]

I wonder though if I might be jumping the gun. Perhaps the two stroke has an advantage, whether it has the same torque or not. Some time ago at a group traffic light GP, my lil RGV held it's own against thousands and middleweights alike. Prolly not for 200 meters though. Some of the other guys were racers too, so it wasn't just squid factor.

Right.. its beating inertia..

[gav]

Anyone ridden a VFR400 and CBR400RR back to back? How did the "grunty" V4 perform against the "peaky" I4 ?

[Drew]

Anyone ridden a VFR400 and CBR400RR back to back? How did the "grunty" V4 perform against the "peaky" I4 ?

VFR/RVF are a fucken hell of a let down. The CBR is twice the bike, no matter what the application or test.

[gav]

VFR/RVF are a fucken hell of a let down. The CBR is twice the bike, no matter what the application or test.

Yup spot on, the CBR has so much more midrange and grunt it feels like a 600 in comparison

[Swoop]

How does the MV system work?

Some sort of witchcraft requiring olive oil and pasta, coupled with some garlic-based electrical system.

What showroom stock 'big-block' H-D does mid 1/4 hour?

Fixed it for ya.

[F5 Dave]

I still reckon you're talking shit.


I'm not sure you're getting more torque, or more effect from the same torque. Semantics anyway. Get what ya mean.

Not really. HP and torque are linked with some revs thrown in. And a constant.

More HP, more torque at the rear wheel, simple as that.

Power spread. . . well that's something different.

[AllanB]

Why does this worry you?

Yeah I should not give a shit as I don't own one - it's just friggen marketing again and that annoys me.

[skippa1]

Yeah I should not give a shit as I don't own one - it's just friggen marketing again and that annoys me.

If you think marketing is the only reason someone would buy a harley u might want to pull your head out of your arse