Why not to leave your bike running while filling up

[Flip]

Little fires around the filler happens more often than you expect. Happens usually with women drivers. Static electricity in the vapour around the filler causes a little flash fire which usually goes out. The servos dont want you sitting on your bike because you normally back away then there is a small fire between your legs and the bike falls over then they have a bigger fire to put out.

The reason they dont want you talking on the phone is the chance of being distracted in an area where there are vehicles coming and going greately increases your chance of a spill or ped vs vehicle accident.

Anyway its their place of business and the site management has every legal and moral right to manage risk as they see fit on their site.

If you were stupid enough to do some thing (on video) that resulted in say a major fire at a service station, well let me say the oil companies have very deep legal pockets.

[Tazz]

The reason they dont want you talking on the phone is the chance of being distracted in an area where there are vehicles coming and going greately increases your chance of a spill or ped vs vehicle accident.

That is incorrect.

They are listed as ignition sources and fire hazards for theories related to an unexplained (at the time) explosion some two decades ago from memory, or maybe just the theories.

That distraction thing has been tacked on later in the game, but it all still comes under laws, rules and regulations related to fire codes and other equally exciting paperwork.

[PrincessBandit]

I just kill the ignition, get off, fill, pay, get on, ride away. I didn't know it was all meant to be so complicated!

[Tazz]

I just kill the ignition, get off, fill, pay, get on, ride away. I didn't know it was all meant to be so complicated!

Da faq! No pies? You're doing it all wrong.

[awa355]

If you were stupid enough to do some thing (on video) that resulted in say a major fire at a service station, well let me say the oil companies have very deep legal pockets.

But then you would have your own you tube video, You could be world famous on KB.

As the chinaman says, 'Spray, pay and ride awaaaye',

[R650R]

If you were stupid enough to do some thing (on video) that resulted in say a major fire at a service station, well let me say the oil companies have very deep legal pockets.

So do most motorists insurance companies...
Although we take it for granted they are; allowing people to handle a very dangerous product with no special training, no specific training on what to do in an emergency. There is no site induction process, no check on is the person a suitable candidate to handle said product, no check to see if the receptacle is safe to receive.
And on top of all that for site personal (in all the above I'm referring to joe public) the actual staff they hire are likely lowly educated and paid the minimum wage they can get away with, and likely scan more training than the public.
In fact the only reason why OSH isn't on their case is the self interest of the OSH staff knowing such proper procedures would make the shit even more expensive.
Given the volume stored on site in close proximity theres no reason why the public handling the petrol should be any less trained or scrutinized than the tanker drivers who deliver it.

I do chuckle everytime at the stickers on pump that say warning 'suspected carcinogen'..... it either is or it isn't....

[Oakie]

So do most motorists insurance companies...
Although we take it for granted they are; allowing people to handle a very dangerous product with no special training, no specific training on what to do in an emergency. There is no site induction process, no check on is the person a suitable candidate to handle said product, no check to see if the receptacle is safe to receive.
And on top of all that for site personal (in all the above I'm referring to joe public) the actual staff they hire are likely lowly educated and paid the minimum wage they can get away with, and likely scan more training than the public.
In fact the only reason why OSH isn't on their case is the self interest of the OSH staff knowing such proper procedures would make the shit even more expensive.
Given the volume stored on site in close proximity theres no reason why the public handling the petrol should be any less trained or scrutinized than the tanker drivers who deliver it. ..

Interesting points.

[FJRider]

What really makes me laugh ... is when some dude or dudess .. puts their bike on the main stand to fill (to the brim) ... then parks said bike on the side stand for the next hour in the hot sun while they have lunch. They return to their pride and joy ... that has now a small puddle of petrol underneath ... and can't figure out why.

[Flip]

That is incorrect.

They are listed as ignition sources and fire hazards for theories related to an unexplained (at the time) explosion some two decades ago from memory, or maybe just the theories.

That distraction thing has been tacked on later in the game, but it all still comes under laws, rules and regulations related to fire codes and other equally exciting paperwork.

And a hot spark ignition motor is not?

The hazardous zone wiring regs were written by a committee.

[Flip]

So do most motorists insurance companies...
Although we take it for granted they are; allowing people to handle a very dangerous product with no special training, no specific training on what to do in an emergency. There is no site induction process, no check on is the person a suitable candidate to handle said product, no check to see if the receptacle is safe to receive.
And on top of all that for site personal (in all the above I'm referring to joe public) the actual staff they hire are likely lowly educated and paid the minimum wage they can get away with, and likely scan more training than the public.
In fact the only reason why OSH isn't on their case is the self interest of the OSH staff knowing such proper procedures would make the shit even more expensive.
Given the volume stored on site in close proximity theres no reason why the public handling the petrol should be any less trained or scrutinized than the tanker drivers who deliver it.

I do chuckle everytime at the stickers on pump that say warning 'suspected carcinogen'..... it either is or it isn't....

The volumes are small, the fuel delivery equipment is designed to reduce as much risk as possible and a motor car is not technically a source of ignition, but a cellphone is?

Yes they do seek damages even if you drive off with the fuel dispencer is still in your cars fill point.

[Tazz]

And a hot spark ignition motor is not?

The hazardous zone wiring regs were written by a committee.

A hot spark ignition is not what? Distracting?

From my understanding it was a knee jerk reaction that is now easier to leave in place than remove.

[R650R]

The volumes are small, the fuel delivery equipment is designed to reduce as much risk as possible and a motor car is not technically a source of ignition, but a cellphone is?

Yes they do seek damages even if you drive off with the fuel dispencer is still in your cars fill point.

Lets pretend we lived in some bullshit greenie utopia with only electric cars but petrol as a chemical was available for some other pertinent unknown purpose, maybe witch burning goes mainstream or something.
Anyway in such bizzaro world would the relevant retailer be allowed to sell such potent liquefied calamity Bin Inn style help your self with a drive thru setup?????
Even the sale and distribution of fireworks with less bang per insert relevant measuarement are more regulated....

[Berries]

Got told by Mr Grumpy at a BP servo today "Next time, don't sit on your bike when you refuel. There's signs out there saying not to". Thought he would have been more concerned about me not taking my helmet off in the shop so I was somewhat taken aback. Wavered on the point of thanking him for his concern "but it's not illegal so I'll carry on that way" but let it pass. Just.

Yeah, BP are like that down here. I used the local one for years then one day Mr Mosgiel Grumpy told me I had to get off to fill it up. Never been back. I am genuinely interested in how many incidents there have been to cause this great concern. BP were never bothered about the helmet, unlike the old Shell. Once they wouldn't sell me a sandwich while I had my helmet on even though I was holding out cash. I don't know if Z are the same, I use Mobil now.

I have found that the less services the service station provides the less interested they are in making you get off or remove your lid. That's fine with me, and probably explains why I don't get the same issue out of own. Probably explains why Mobil is my preference as well because they don't fuck about with coffee, donuts or flowers.