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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Roller View Post
    Usually if you have been riding for years then it's no problem.
    Follow the road rules
    At least one foot on the ground at stop signs
    Remember to indicate and cancel
    Check mirrors heaps.
    Check blind spots starting off pulling back to the curb before turning right
    Turn head to scan for hazards when approaching intersections driveways etc
    Be at the posted speed limit before the sign when slowing down especially at roadworks
    Speed should be within 5 kph of posted limit but not over you have 8 sec grace if over to reduce your speed
    Do not cross the white Centre line when turning right instant fail.
    Just some of the advice I give clients who sit their 6R or 6F through me

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    Excellent, thanks for all that. Will give it a good read over before I sit the test!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    I've been riding for years, do you think it's still necessary? I don't want to be cocky in case it is needed to pick up tips, but at the same time don't want to pay an extra $80 on top of $160 for test and $100 to hire a 250cc.

    Anyone done the test? Can't imagine it being tricky?
    CBTA is based on roadcraft which has essentially been around since 1930 odd. At it's core, roadcraft is about giving yourself more time to react. Gathering information and observing hazards and acting upon that information.

    However, I've come across plenty of riders who have been riding for years but still have poor skills. As one person I know put it... if you're only riding in summer and once or twice a month (or maybe on each weekend), on the same route, then you have a couple of days experience in 20 years (not saying that's what you're doing - I haven't a clue).

    Depends when you last had your riding assessed? Have you done Ride Forever or any other type of riding course? Read any books? You could find yourself in for a surprise if you haven't. Look at it from the other point of view if you like. Skip the tuition, find there are gaps and fail the test. Come back another day and pay another fee?

    Instructors are used to riders just wanting a licence and not actually knowing the skills... they don't pass...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJRider View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    CBTA is based on roadcraft which has essentially been around since 1930 odd. At it's core, roadcraft is about giving yourself more time to react. Gathering information and observing hazards and acting upon that information.

    However, I've come across plenty of riders who have been riding for years but still have poor skills. As one person I know put it... if you're only riding in summer and once or twice a month (or maybe on each weekend), on the same route, then you have a couple of days experience in 20 years (not saying that's what you're doing - I haven't a clue).

    Depends when you last had your riding assessed? Have you done Ride Forever or any other type of riding course? Read any books? You could find yourself in for a surprise if you haven't. Look at it from the other point of view if you like. Skip the tuition, find there are gaps and fail the test. Come back another day and pay another fee?

    Instructors are used to riders just wanting a licence and not actually knowing the skills... they don't pass...
    Gremlin is on the money.

    Take it from someone who knows.

    If you don't do some training your chances are significantly lower. So many riders who turn up for Ride Forever courses, especially those who have ridden for years, have ingrained habits that will nix a CBTA assessment.

    Eg. Dude failed a CBTA assessment recently down here, indicating faults accounting for the majority of his faults. Head checks are a thing for a lot of folk too.

    The training is worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    Don't know why I didn't try all CBTA guys earlier. Ones already replied saying yes to a Saturday.

    All suggest doing a hours per training at the cost of $80.
    I've been riding for years, do you think it's still necessary? I don't want to be cocky in case it is needed to pick up tips, but at the same time don't want to pay an extra $80 on top of $160 for test and $100 to hire a 250cc.

    Anyone done the test? Can't imagine it being tricky?

    Thanks for all the fast replies
    I've been riding on the road for 30 years. I just booked a training course for Saturday the 14th of November.

    You're not going to learn everything there is to know about motorcycling in your entire lifetime and even just one new skill learned from this course might be the difference between turning up to work on Monday or getting a nice rest stay in a hospital.
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    The training is on how to pass the test (as well as stay alive)

    You have had one lucky break already - don't waste the opportunity you have been given by cheapening out now or it could be no riding over summer...

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    spend the extra $80 to increase yours chances of passing. Give you a chance to get to know the tester better too and their style. Look at it this way, if someone offer you the chance to go over the questions in an exam before you had to sit it for only 50% more wouldn't you? and this way you get to know the examiner. Kill some of those bad habbits we all pick up before they cost you the pass. Also a chance to get used to the bike as you wont be on your own I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Roller View Post
    Usually if you have been riding for years then it's no problem.
    Follow the road rules
    At least one foot on the ground at stop signs
    Remember to indicate and cancel
    Check mirrors heaps.
    Check blind spots starting off pulling back to the curb before turning right
    Turn head to scan for hazards when approaching intersections driveways etc
    Be at the posted speed limit before the sign when slowing down especially at roadworks
    Speed should be within 5 kph of posted limit but not over you have 8 sec grace if over to reduce your speed
    Do not cross the white Centre line when turning right instant fail.
    Just some of the advice I give clients who sit their 6R or 6F through me

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    I'd be fucked then
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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonu View Post
    Start the old 'cough sniff' routine on Thursday at lunchtime. That's the NZ way!!!
    Thursday ... ??? .. I start that routine on Mondays ...
    When life throws you a curve ... Lean into it ...

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    For anyone who may find this thread in the future.

    Can recommend two bald bikers in Wainui. Painfully expensive but seems to be the rate for CBTA. AA test would be cheaper and easier.

    Course was good. Hour training was handy in some aspects. Could of summed it up in 5 minutes though..so $80 would be a steep fee for confident riders. The guy was very helpful. Test is basically just overdoing what you'd usually do. 10000 head checks. Look at your mirrors constantly. Keep to speed limit, even temporary painfully slow roadworks etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    For anyone who may find this thread in the future.

    Can recommend two bald bikers in Wainui. Painfully expensive but seems to be the rate for CBTA. AA test would be cheaper and easier.

    Course was good. Hour training was handy in some aspects. Could of summed it up in 5 minutes though..so $80 would be a steep fee for confident riders. The guy was very helpful. Test is basically just overdoing what you'd usually do. 10000 head checks. Look at your mirrors constantly. Keep to speed limit, even temporary painfully slow roadworks etc.
    I dont get it, you've been riding illegally for some time, you got sprung, and by a decent copper, he could have put you off the road then and there, instead gave you a 'break', the 'baldies' have given you the chance to pass your test at short notice, on a weekend, {anyone else working weekends gets time and a half, apart from it meaning giving up free time?} You are doing nothing but 'complain' about cost, money, wasted, painfully expensive etc... Would you rather the other option?? Prosecuted for riding with no licence, which would have carried a much higher cost?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    For anyone who may find this thread in the future.

    Can recommend two bald bikers in Wainui. Painfully expensive but seems to be the rate for CBTA. AA test would be cheaper and easier.

    Course was good. Hour training was handy in some aspects. Could of summed it up in 5 minutes though..so $80 would be a steep fee for confident riders. The guy was very helpful. Test is basically just overdoing what you'd usually do. 10000 head checks. Look at your mirrors constantly. Keep to speed limit, even temporary painfully slow roadworks etc.
    $80 bucks sounds fair or even a bargain considering it is on a weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    For anyone who may find this thread in the future.

    Can recommend two bald bikers in Wainui. Painfully expensive but seems to be the rate for CBTA. AA test would be cheaper and easier.

    Course was good. Hour training was handy in some aspects. Could of summed it up in 5 minutes though..so $80 would be a steep fee for confident riders. The guy was very helpful. Test is basically just overdoing what you'd usually do. 10000 head checks. Look at your mirrors constantly. Keep to speed limit, even temporary painfully slow roadworks etc.
    So how much would you work for on your day off to put up with a moaning rider who doesnt want to stick to the speed limit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GrayWolf View Post
    I dont get it, you've been riding illegally for some time, you got sprung, and by a decent copper, he could have put you off the road then and there, instead gave you a 'break', the 'baldies' have given you the chance to pass your test at short notice, on a weekend, {anyone else working weekends gets time and a half, apart from it meaning giving up free time?} You are doing nothing but 'complain' about cost, money, wasted, painfully expensive etc... Would you rather the other option?? Prosecuted for riding with no licence, which would have carried a much higher cost?

    You seem upset

    I said I recommend them... Don't know how you missed the first line you quoted. Yeah 30kmph in 70kmph temp speed limits are "painfully" slow. Get a speed gun and see if anyone (including yourself) sticks to them. Pretty fair for some anxious learner who might read this in the future if he has 100 cars right up behind him in the test tempting him to go faster.

    I'm not going to argue about their charges, just saying its steep IMO for a confident rider to pay the $80. To each their own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lower View Post
    You seem upset

    I said I recommend them... Don't know how you missed the first line you quoted. Yeah 30kmph in 70kmph temp speed limits are "painfully" slow. Get a speed gun and see if anyone (including yourself) sticks to them. Pretty fair for some anxious learner who might read this in the future if he has 100 cars right up behind him in the test tempting him to go faster.

    I'm not going to argue about their charges, just saying its steep IMO for a confident rider to pay the $80. To each their own
    How much do you think is reasonable?

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