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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    When all is said and done it's really only about courtesy for the vehicle waiting to enter.
    True dat.
    Most people don't think about anyone else and if they do they have to beat them on the road, even if its just one car length and if it causes a slow down for those vehicles behind 'f**k those idiots'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Dog View Post
    DOT is acceptable provided the helmet was manufactured and sold in the us.
    It is relatively useless though because all it means is the manufacturer wrote a letter to the right person saying they believe the helmet is safe. Unless it has changed in the last 4 years there is no burden of proof... unless someone comes a cropper and can prove the helmet defective and contributed to the injury.

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    Yeah, just recently, on this side of the ditch, where state roads authorities still make shit up as they go along, the 2 most populous
    states (NSW & Vic) have finally agreed to accept Euro standard helmets as 'legal' - along with the already approved Au/NZ & DOT (US) stuff.

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    All correct, but what I liked about the original system was that if you were in the RB and going 'straight' (lets agree on that term) then by not 'indicating your intention to go around' by default you were going through. Anyone with a turn signal on was going 'around' in some form.

    Pet hate and it appears to be the over 60's - going 'straight' indicate right then left !!!! Covering all options!

    And SUV's - by shear size they can ignore any road courtesy and do WTF they like!

    And tradie vans in Christchurch - best to presume they have no idea what they are doing as a disturbing percentage of them appear to be driving stoned ....... (recent paper article expressed concern over tradie and drug use in CHCH).

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    The road rules... you need to know them and apply them in order to get your licence. You can't pick and choose which ones you deem suitable, and by breaking them, there is a penalty (well, if caught anyway)...

    Not sure how this is hard to comprehend?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    Pet hate and it appears to be the over 60's - going 'straight' indicate right then left !!!! Covering all options!
    That's possibly a failure to communicate by officialdom, I'm sure I can recall that being promulgated as the correct procedure.
    Still, as long as the oldies don't indicate left when they're going straight through it shouldn't cause too many problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gremlin View Post
    The road rules... you need to know them and apply them in order to get your licence. You can't pick and choose which ones you deem suitable, and by breaking them, there is a penalty (well, if caught anyway)...

    Not sure how this is hard to comprehend?
    No argument there.


    But don't we just do that every day...... pretty sure I traveled at over 104 this morning ..... but I was not in a roundabout, and I had a Snell approved helmet on.


    Anyone get a helmet inspection today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post
    All correct, but what I liked about the original system was that if you were in the RB and going 'straight' (lets agree on that term) then by not 'indicating your intention to go around' by default you were going through.
    The problem I had with this is that you had to see which road a vehicle came in from to know where they would leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AllanB View Post


    Anyone get a helmet inspection today?
    I had a quick look at mine this morning, i might get the misses to take a closer look in the morning

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    Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

    I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere. Not one. I even pulled out the cheek pads and other inner padding.

    They're both Shoei (Qwest and GT-Air) so I know they comply. Does the absence of a sticker mean anything legally?
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

    I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere. Not one. I even pulled out the cheek pads and other inner padding.

    They're both Shoei (Qwest and GT-Air) so I know they comply. Does the absence of a sticker mean anything legally?
    no, but if the popo was to harass you over it the following should be noted

    In proceedings for an offence of breaching this clause, proof that a safety helmet worn by the defendant did not bear a standard specification mark or a registered trademark is, until the contrary is proved, sufficient evidence that the helmet was not of an approved standard.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

    I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere. Not one. I even pulled out the cheek pads and other inner padding.

    They're both Shoei (Qwest and GT-Air) so I know they comply. Does the absence of a sticker mean anything legally?
    Guess thats what happens when you buy your gear on Ebay.

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    I was hit by one such driver while remaining in the view of their mirror.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

    I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere. Not one. I even pulled out the cheek pads and other inner padding.

    They're both Shoei (Qwest and GT-Air) so I know they comply. Does the absence of a sticker mean anything legally?
    Just had a look at my GT-Air. There were a couple of labels about not piercing it or soaking it in acid around the place but the potential safety standard sticker I found was attached to the right hand chin strap, under the sheath bit. It had E6 in a circle and a few other numbers around the edges.

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    .....so, a sticker "proves" your helmet is safe to wear

    In the article, in fairness to them, they say just the presence of a sticker does not mean a helmet is safe, but how does your average policeman make that judgement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by admenk View Post
    .....so, a sticker "proves" your helmet is safe to wear

    In the article, in fairness to them, they say just the presence of a sticker does not mean a helmet is safe, but how does your average policeman make that judgement?
    The rozza are not here to make judgements, not their job. The rozza are only here to prosecute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere.
    You bloody Wellingtonians and your modern ways.

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