Police crackdown on unsafe helmets

**swbarnett** · 5th December 2015, 22:41

Originally Posted by nzspokes

Guess thats what happens when you buy your gear on Ebay.

Big assumption. The GT-Air was bought locally.

**swbarnett** · 5th December 2015, 22:51

Originally Posted by Ender EnZed

Just had a look at my GT-Air. There were a couple of labels about not piercing it or soaking it in acid around the place but the potential safety standard sticker I found was attached to the right hand chin strap, under the sheath bit. It had E6 in a circle and a few other numbers around the edges.

Thanks, I saw that but at the time hadn't realised how to make it visible. I just had another look and yes, The E6 is there once I push the comfort cover back out of the way.

The same is trie for my Qwest.

**swbarnett** · 5th December 2015, 22:54

Originally Posted by Berries

You bloody Wellingtonians and your modern ways.

I'm closer to Auckland than Wellington. About 10 times closer.

**AllanB** · 6th December 2015, 11:34

Dot and Snell approved stickers on the outside back of my HJC with a decent Snell label inside under the padding. You'll definately need to have you lid off to prove it complies.

**J.A.W.** · 6th December 2015, 18:03

Originally Posted by AllanB

Dot and Snell approved stickers on the outside back of my HJC with a decent Snell label inside under the padding. You'll definately need to have you lid off to prove it complies.

Over here, a cop'll tell you that your helmet visor also requires a plainly readable compliance label..

I might buy a Nazi-style helmet, but then I'd probably be at risk of being busted - for 'impersonating' - a bloody cop..

**bmws1r** · 6th December 2015, 18:44

Just ask the cuntstable if he/she has the correct training/course to clearly ID an ISO standard motorcycle safety device, as stickers can come off with wear and tear.And remember they can only fuck you around for 15mins from the time they stop you, if nothing happens within that waste of your time, just leave as you are within your rights to do so.(they will chase after you, stop you, they may arrest you, but when it is heard in a court the judge will scald the popo like a 13 year old boy caught wanking off in the girls locker rooms, you will walk free with a smug look on face, finger raised to popo.)

**scumdog** · 6th December 2015, 19:26

Originally Posted by bmws1r

Just ask the cuntstable if he/she has the correct training/course to clearly ID an ISO standard motorcycle safety device, as stickers can come off with wear and tear.And remember they can only fuck you around for 15mins from the time they stop you, if nothing happens within that waste of your time, just leave as you are within your rights to do so.(they will chase after you, stop you, they may arrest you, but when it is heard in a court the judge will scald the popo like a 13 year old boy caught wanking off in the girls locker rooms, you will walk free with a smug look on face, finger raised to popo.)

Cool story bro!

**Big Dog** · 7th December 2015, 10:20

Originally Posted by swbarnett

Getting back to the original topic for a moment...

I checked both mine and my wife's helmet this morning and could not find a safety standard sticker anywhere. Not one. I even pulled out the cheek pads and other inner padding.

They're both Shoei (Qwest and GT-Air) so I know they comply. Does the absence of a sticker mean anything legally?

The exact standard used to be on a white bit of cloth stitched to the strap for the market they were manufactured for.
If imported by the nz importer there should also be a snell sticker to the left of centre at the back.

The only person I have known to be ticketed for this was ticketed for not having the sticker.
He was in at the bike shop trying to buy a "replacement" sticker for his Web sourced helmet. None too happy we couldn't provide such a thing.

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**swbarnett** · 7th December 2015, 13:44

Originally Posted by Big Dog

The exact standard used to be on a white bit of cloth stitched to the strap for the market they were manufactured for.
If imported by the nz importer there should also be a snell sticker to the left of centre at the back.

The only person I have known to be ticketed for this was ticketed for not having the sticker.
He was in at the bike shop trying to buy a "replacement" sticker for his Web sourced helmet. None too happy we couldn't provide such a thing.

Neither my web sourced (fc-moto) or my wife's locally bought Shoei have the sticker. They both have the tag on the chin strap though.

**Big Dog** · 7th December 2015, 14:07

I reckon unless you were being a dick in the first place it is unlikely you will ever get checked for either of the helmets you list.
If you were checked it would be a a proper dick that didn't accept the sewn in tag.
Customer in question failed the attitude test if you ask me.

I was told the stickers are only put on for helmets destined to be sold in countries that require them. I suppose that doesn't mean that even still happens. I last worked in a bike shop 5 years ago.
My last Shoei had a gold and transparent sticker.

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**Paul in NZ** · 7th December 2015, 14:49

Awesome home business opportunity selling 'replacement' stickers... My financial future is assured...

On a more serious note...

I have seen many replica 'novelty' helmets with DOT approved stickers and even advertised as such.. Hmmm... I'll be a sack full of wet weasel buttocks these helmets have never been tested... Or at least tested beyond not falling to bits until the customers cheque has cleared...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-994882927.htm

**flashg** · 7th December 2015, 18:16

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

Awesome home business opportunity selling 'replacement' stickers... My financial future is assured...

On a more serious note...

I have seen many replica 'novelty' helmets with DOT approved stickers and even advertised as such.. Hmmm... I'll be a sack full of wet weasel buttocks these helmets have never been tested... Or at least tested beyond not falling to bits until the customers cheque has cleared...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-994882927.htm

Yeah that clip looks strong and won't disintegrate when my head hits the ground, Tui moment right there. No thanks

**Scuba_Steve** · 7th December 2015, 18:53

Originally Posted by Paul in NZ

On a more serious note...

I have seen many replica 'novelty' helmets with DOT approved stickers and even advertised as such.. Hmmm... I'll be a sack full of wet weasel buttocks these helmets have never been tested... Or at least tested beyond not falling to bits until the customers cheque has cleared...

http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/moto...-994882927.htm

DOT doesn't require testing that's most the problem with it... see below

The Dept. of Transportation, part of the Federal Govt., sets safety standards for motorcycle helmets. Manufacturers are not required to submit helmets to independent testing labs, or even test them themselves to any particular level, only to certify that their helmets meet the standard. And then they are allowed to put a sticker on the helmet that says 'DOT'.

There are little 'beanie' helmets sold in bike shops that have a little warning on them that they are not to the DOT standard and therefore not technically legal. But they come with a DOT sticker in the box, and you are allowed to put this sticker on yourself! This doesn't make the helmet legal but the idea is to fool the cops. Believe it or not, thats 'legal'.

**Big Dog** · 7th December 2015, 23:02

I got given a nz aus approved German helmet. F knows how it meet any standard... I dropped it from about head height onto concrete by accident and was very grateful it was not on my head. Fracture about 2 inches long on each of the 3 "legs" .

Just to be sure I thought that fucked it let's see what our will take to thoroughly destroy it.
It seems a 3 iron takes 3 strokes to reduce it to unrecognizable.

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